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RE: [dita]

From: Deborah Pickett <[email protected]>
To: [email protected]
Date: Thu, 16 Aug 2007 00:21:00 -0000


Hi Jeff, Eliot,

If <ph> is allowed as the child
of every element that allows PCDATA, that would of course work.  But
I suspect that there are far-reaching consequences of opening up the content
model of some elements that currently allow text but not <ph>.  <ph>
can contain inline images, for instance, which might not be desirable.
 Do we allow <ph> inside <data>?  That brings in
a lot of other markup too.    This could be avoided if a lightweight
element like <text> were used instead.  Since <text> can
contain no child elements other than more <text> (and the usual bits
like <data>), there's no possibility of escape.  But I don't
feel strongly about the particulars of implementation.

It would be interesting to see if the
constraints proposal could help here.

I leave open the question of whether
it is desirable or useful to let <text> be specialized further.

--

Deborah Pickett

Information Architect, Moldflow Corporation, Melbourne

[email protected]





"Ogden, Jeff"
<[email protected]> 
16/08/2007 01:18 AM




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"Eliot Kimber" <[email protected]>,
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RE: [dita] <text> element (#12020)









Sounds as if <ph> should
be a specialization of <text>.  We are probably trapped by the
past, however.  
 
I wonder of <text> should
be a specialization of anything or just a new addition to the base element
set for topics and maps.
 
    -Jeff
 



From: Eliot Kimber [mailto:[email protected]]


Sent: Wednesday, August 15, 2007 8:55 AM

To: [email protected]

Subject: RE: [dita] <text> element (#12020)
 
“text” is a specialization of phrase that
serves two purposes:
1.
  Allows content model constraints
(e.g., (data, text) rather than (data | ph))
2.
  Makes the semantic clear (i.e.,
just a container of PCDATA with no other meaning or presentation expectation
 
Cheers,
 
E.
----
W. Eliot Kimber
Senior Solutions Architect
Really Strategies, Inc.
512 554 9368
 
From: Ogden, Jeff [mailto:[email protected]]


Sent: Wednesday, August 15, 2007 7:49 AM

To: [email protected]; [email protected]

Subject: RE: [dita] <text> element (#12020)
 
What is the difference between
<ph> and <text>?  Are both needed?  
 
   -Jeff