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Re: [dita] problem with packaging of glossaries
Su-Laine, thanks for continuing to think about this. I was operating under the following assumptions:
- We need to separate the elements in the base and technical packages.
- We do not want to change any current
grouping of elements, for example, "Miscellaneous elements"
Kris
Su-Laine Yeo wrote:
[email protected]" type="cite">Hi everyone,
As I promised on Tuesday, here is a suggestion for the organization of the language reference. The numbers below are the ones we're using for DITA 1.1 (http://docs.oasis-open.org/dita/v1.1/CD02/langspec/ditaref-type.html). Items without numbers are new for DITA 1.2.
I will probably have some suggestions later to rename some of these items, but I’d rather not mix up a discussion on renaming with a discussion on organization. What do you think of this organization?
Cheers,
Su-Laine
Su-Laine Yeo
Interaction Design Specialist
JustSystems Canada, Inc.
Office: 778-327-6356
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== Topic elements==
2.0 Topic elements (rename this, e.g. to "topic structural elements")
7.0 Body elements
8.0 Table elements
10.0 Related links elements
13.0 Typographic domain elements
17.0 Utilities domain elements
==Elements for specific topic types==
3.0 Concept elements
4.0 Reference elements
5.0 Task elements
Glossary related elements
==Map and bookmap elements==
19.0 Map elements
20.0 Map group elements
21.0 Bookmap content elements
22.0 Bookmap metadata elements
==Metadata elements==
9.0 Prolog elements
18.0 Indexing group elements
Classification domain elements
23.0 xNAL domain elements
Conref delayed resolution elements
==Industry-specific elements==
14.0 Programming elements
15.0 Software elements
16.0 User interface elements
Hazard statement elements
Machine industry task elements
==12.0 Specialization elements==
==Elements external to content==
Subject scheme map elements
24.0 DITAVAL elements
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I suggest eliminating the "Miscellaneous elements" group by putting these elements into meaningful categories:
Topic elements:
11.01 dita
Metadata elements:
11.02 draft-comment
11.04 indexterm
11.05 indextermref
11.06 index-base
Body elements:
11.03 fn
11.07 tm
Specialization elements
11.08 data-about
11.09 data
11.10 foreign
11.11 unknown
From: Kristen James Eberlein [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Tuesday, September 01, 2009 6:51 AM
To: Michael Priestley
Cc: DITA TC
Subject: Re: [dita] Order for lang ref files (Was "Re: [dita] problem with packaging of glossaries")
Here are some prototypes for discussion:
Base: http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/dita/download.php/34012/base-langRef.gif
Technical Content: http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/dita/download.php/34011/technicalContent-LangRef.gif
Best,
Kris
Michael Priestley wrote:
Hi Kris,
Maybe something like:
Topic elements
Prolog elements
Body elements
Related-link elements
Map elements
Basic map elements
Mapgroup domain elements
Subject scheme elements
Shared elements
Indexing elements
etc.
DITAVAL elements
I know I haven't captured everything - but the basic thought would be to organize primarily around topic vs map etc., and then within that distinction organize by order within the doctype (when possible), or by general-to-specific or most-used to least-used (when there is no doctype order).
If we were just laying out all elements, then alpha order would make sense. But once we add groupings, then the groupings aren't really useful in alpha order - they aren't things users are looking up because they know about them, but things that add meaning to the structure for users who don't know what they're looking for. So the more meaning we can pack into the order the better.
Michael Priestley, Senior Technical Staff Member (STSM)
Lead IBM DITA Architect
[email protected]
http://dita.xml.org/blog/25
Kristen James Eberlein <[email protected]>
08/21/2009 12:56 PM
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Michael Priestley/Toronto/IBM@IBMCA
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DITA TC <[email protected]>
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[dita] Order for lang ref files (Was "Re: [dita] problem with packaging of glossaries")
Obviously, the files are currently sorted alphabetically. Do you have an alternative that you would favor?
Best,
Kris
Michael Priestley wrote:
Some potential users of the base package:
- people creating tools that work with simple content applications with minimal structure, like unstructured blogs, news feeds, web page components...
- people who would otherwise not read the spec because it's too big, and can now be seduced into reading just the first part, which provides a context that makes the rest less intimidating
Re the organization below - I'm not sure about the order but the split looks right.
Thanks for making this discussion concrete.
Michael Priestley, Senior Technical Staff Member (STSM)
Lead IBM DITA Architect
[email protected]
http://dita.xml.org/blog/25
Kristen James Eberlein <[email protected]>
08/21/2009 10:33 AM
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DITA TC <[email protected]>
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Re: [dita] problem with packaging of glossaries
Two key issues:
1. Who do we anticipate being the potential users of the base package?
2. Michael, I want you to look at the current contents of the language reference material for both the base and technical content version. Is this as you have been envisioning it?
Best,
Kris