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[Andreas Guelzow]

On Thu, 2011-09-15 at 18:42 -0600, monkeyiq wrote: > On Thu, 2011-09-15 at 18:22 -0600, Andreas J. Guelzow wrote: > > On Thu, 2011-09-15 at 18:12 -0600, monkeyiq wrote: > > > On Thu, 2011-09-15 at 23:53 +0200, Thorsten Behrens wrote: > > > > monkeyiq wrote about ECT: > > > > > I find this an extremely critical issue has it means that users of > > > > > change tracking are relying on various applications to imply changes > > > > > rather than being told directly and explicitly what has changed. > > > > > > > > > Hi Ben, > > > > > > > > well the same applies to GCT. The very fact that it needs > > > > annotations is testament to this issue. I maintain that GCT markup, > > > > while being a nice idea on the xml level, fails my requirements as > > > > an implementer of a non-xml internal data model application. > > > > > > > > Cheers, > > > > > > Perhaps we are looking at different aspects here. I am referring to > > > example like the "Edit Image/Shape/Chart" from the ECT (pp17). In order > > > for an application to tell you that the image file name changed from > > > Image1.jpg to Image2.jpg it will have to do a diff on the > > > > > > text:tracked-changes/ > > > text:changed-region@text:id="1"/ > > > text:deletion ct:id="1"/ > > > draw:frame > > > And the inline draw:frame for > > > text:change-start text:change-id="1" ct:sub-id="2" > > > > > > In the GCT this would be explicit in an ac:change attribute. No need to > > > perform any analysis to see that the xlink:href was Image1.jpg in the > > > last revision. > > > > But changing the name of the image file in the zip package is _not_ a > > change to the document. The image file names are just internal > > references to find the appropriate image or chart description. > > Well, this is just the example from the ECT proposal document. It is my > understanding that any semantic change in the draw:frame is handled the > same way. So for example, editing the caption will want to be change > tracked and will produce the above need to perform a diff analysis. > And in GCT while you know that the image file name has changed you also still have to perform a diff analysis to determine whether there has indeed been a change to the image (or chart or...). So in both cases you need to determine whether there was change and if there was a change what it in consisted of (assuming that your implementation wants to be more specific then saying that there may have been a change). Andreas -- Andreas J. Guelzow, PhD, FTICA Concordia University College of Alberta This is a digitally signed message part