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IRC log from today's meeting - 2013-03-13


Our next meeting will be in two weeks on the 27th of March - in two weeks at the same time as today: http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/meetingdetails.html?year=2013&month=3&day=27&hour=14&min=30&sec=0&p1=179&p2=37&p3=136&p4=234&iv=1800 Louis added a action table to our Wiki: https://wiki.oasis-open.org/office/Advanced%20Document%20Collaboration Action item for all: Review wiki pages ( insert / delete paragraph). Easy enough to understand? Suggest common repeatable structure! What is missing, e.g. what XML belongs to to the paragraph, i.e. only text:p with attributes, we analyzed in todays call. Please find the IRC log of today's meeting below: [15:30]  Svante Schubert: Hi everyone! [15:32]  Oliver-Rainer Wittmann: searching for the numbers to dial in [15:33]  Oliver-Rainer Wittmann: found [15:33]  Svante Schubert: http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/meetingdetails.html?year=2013&month=3&day=27&hour=14&min=30&sec=0&p1=179&p2=37&p3=136&p4=234&iv=1800 [15:35]  Svante Schubert: In two weeks we still have European Winter time. To avoid any further confusion, lets stick to this schedule and use the above URL time. [15:37]  lsoui: daylight savings time sucks [15:38]  Svante Schubert: We are keeping the current time for our next call in two weeks, see URL above. If there are problems, just write to the list. [15:38]  lsoui: btw, latest OpenSuSE is out [15:39]  Svante Schubert: https://wiki.oasis-open.org/office/Deletion%20of%20a%20paragraph https://wiki.oasis-open.org/office/Insertion%20of%20a%20paragraph [15:39]  Svante Schubert: Oliver: Status on Wiki page [15:43]  Oliver-Rainer Wittmann: The last update on the Wiki page had been made in mid January to switch to the definitions to the definition of operations . In the prose I mentioned which User Action could be changed-tracked by the operation [15:43]  Svante Schubert: The idea is to use the Wiki page as the current working draft and paste it later into the ODF template of the specification [15:44]  Svante Schubert: Our final goal to reach our mayor milestone the delivery of a specification to our next ODF version. [15:45]  Oliver-Rainer Wittmann: action item for Oliver: review wiki text on operations insert paragraph and delete paragraph [15:47]  Svante Schubert: action item of Louis, to review to wiki to see if it is easy understandable [15:48]  Svante Schubert: I will take an action item to describe the common parts used for insert/delete paragraph, as the component counting/numbering. [15:50]  Thorsten Behrens: Hi there - terribly sorry - [15:50]  lsoui: https://wiki.oasis-open.org/odf-adoption/OdfAdoptionTcActionItems [15:51]  Svante Schubert: Louis: There was an action item table in the OASIS adoption TC, Louis is trying to copy/paste it into our wiki [15:54]  Oliver-Rainer Wittmann: Do not hesitate to change the wiki text with the drafts for operation insert paragraph and delete paragraph [15:55]  Svante Schubert: It would be easy/good if all component operations would have a common structure [15:57]  Svante Schubert: Is there any tool to grap information from Wiki pages to push it into an ODF file? Like an ODF specification? [15:57]  Oliver-Rainer Wittmann: I am not sure, if wiki content is a contribution to OASIS regarding OASIS' IP rules. [15:57]  Svante Schubert: What's next? The most important part of a document is the text IMHO! [15:58]  lsoui: svante, I can't seem to create new pages in the wiki [15:58]  Thorsten Behrens: otherwise, wiki is fine for me [15:58]  Svante Schubert: @Louis: Still member? [15:58]  Svante Schubert: @Oliver: We should ask this in the TC, if the Wiki is sufficient for IP rules! [15:59]  Oliver-Rainer Wittmann: yes, ask in the next TC call [15:59]  Svante Schubert: ^^the first who remembers to ask, shall do it! [15:59]  Thorsten Behrens: so, next up after paragraph - text and text styles. [16:00]  Svante Schubert: <text:line-break/> [16:00]  Svante Schubert: is a component, that is a child of a text container as the paragrah [16:01]  Svante Schubert: Another action item: is to list our todo list. The ECT feature set! [16:02]  Svante Schubert: What components and operations are necessary to cover the ECT feature set. [16:02]  Svante Schubert: think of components are just logical XML groups (or single XML elements), or just modular pieces of a the document [16:04]  Svante Schubert: Can we upload odf docs in the wiki? [16:05]  Oliver-Rainer Wittmann: We can store documents in the OASIS document repo. and link to them from the wiki [16:05]  Oliver-Rainer Wittmann: damn - why all text is coming twice [16:05]  Svante Schubert: Sounds good, Oliver! [16:06]  lsoui: added minimal table to the homepage of the group [16:06]  Svante Schubert: Got an URL, Louis? [16:07]  lsoui: https://wiki.oasis-open.org/office/Advanced%20Document%20Collaboration#preview [16:14]  Svante Schubert: Discussing - https://wiki.oasis-open.org/office/Insertion%20of%20a%20paragraph [16:15]  Svante Schubert: We need to define first, what is the XML set that is part of the component. [16:15]  Svante Schubert: Remember each character is an own component. [16:16]  Svante Schubert: One deletion of a paragraph will result into multiple insert operations to undo the change. [16:29]  Svante Schubert: Just looked into schema text does not require any attributes nor XML elements. [16:31]  Svante Schubert: The first insert paragraph operation would be simply adding a text: p element [16:31]  Oliver-Rainer Wittmann: bye [16:31]  Svante Schubert: Of course later we will have additional attributes. [16:31]  Svante Schubert: byebye

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