Draft minutes of 2009-07-14 are attached

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Title: SCA-Assy - 2009-07-14

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OASIS SCA-Assembly TC

14 JUL 2009

Attendees

Present

Mark Combellack	Avaya, Inc.	Group Member
Eric Wells	Hitachi, Ltd.	Group Member
Bryan Aupperle	IBM	Group Member
Michael Beisiegel	IBM	Group Member
David Booz	IBM	Group Member
Vamsavardhana Reddy Chillakuru	IBM	Group Member
Mike Edwards	IBM	Group Member
Simon Holdsworth	IBM	Group Member
Dieter Koenig	IBM	Group Member
Jeff Estefan	Jet Propulsion Laboratory:*	Group Member
Martin Chapman	Oracle Corporation	Group Member
Anish Karmarkar	Oracle Corporation	Group Member
Rich Levinson	Oracle Corporation	Group Member
Ashok Malhotra	Oracle Corporation	Group Member
Gilbert Pilz	Oracle Corporation	Group Member
Sanjay Patil	SAP AG*	Group Member
Plamen Pavlov	SAP AG*	Group Member
Najeeb Andrabi	TIBCO Software Inc.	Group Member
Murty Gurajada	TIBCO Software Inc.	Group Member
Sabin Ielceanu	TIBCO Software Inc.	Group Member
Danny van der Rijn	TIBCO Software Inc.	Group Member
Scott Vorthmann	TIBCO Software Inc.	Group Member

Chairs

Martin Chapman
Mike Edwards

Scribe

Eric Wells

Agenda:

1. Opening

Introductions
Roll call
Scribe confirmation
Agenda bashing

2. Approval of minutes of SCA-Assembly TC meeting of 30th June 2009
http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/sca-assembly/download.php/33286/SCA%20Assembly%20minutes%202009-07-07.html

Mike Edwards comment: I believe that these minutes need revising. There was a Motion to resolve Issue 137 that was approved in this meeting,
but the recording of the motion is incorrectly placed and the recording of the passing of the motion is missing. The minutes need to be updated
to reflect the resolution.

The action item against Mike Edwards to raise an issue against Section 12 (requirement of SCA Runtime to raise an error) is also not recorded.


3. Action Items:

id=2009-07-07-1 status=pending owner="Chairs" Determine if 2/3 rule was suspended for PR or repealed
id=2009-07-07-2 status=done owner="Mike Edwards" Raise an issue against Section 12 to cover the need for an SCA runtime to raise an error
when there is a fault in a document contributed to the Domain, or in the resulting configuration of the Domain.


4. TC Administrivia

a) 1st Public Review of the Assembly Model spec ended June 23

Public comments list:
http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-assembly-comment/

b) Looking for Proposals for all open issues - see Item 8 of this agenda


5. Test Assertions and TestCases

Public Review draft has been voted and sent to TC Administration for external posting.
Awaiting response from TC Administration.


6. Existing Issues with Proposals

ASSEMBLY 121: Conformance to OPTIONAL Normative Statements
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-121

Latest proposals:
http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-assembly/200906/msg00100.html

ASSEMBLY 134: Promoted component reference changes multiplicity by default
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-134

Proposal is in the JIRA.

ASSEMBLY 136: Promoting a reference with multiplicity 1..n and targets should default to 0..n
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-136

Proposal is in the JIRA

ASSEMBLY-153: Two schema issues with SCA Assembly CD03-Rev1
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-153

Proposal is in the JIRA

ASSEMBLY 80: Create an Event Processing Model for SCA
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-80

Directional proposal is in this email:
http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-assembly/200906/msg00129.html

ASSEMBLY 144: ASM50030 and ASM50031 (CD03) are duplicates
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-144

Proposal is in JIRA

ASSEMBLY 147: Assembly Specification does not define the Component Type of a Composite used as an Implementation
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-147

Proposal is in JIRA


7. New Issues

ASSEMBLY 159: Align Test Assertion Document with latest Draft Assembly Spec
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-159

ASSEMBLY 160: Section 12 does not require an SCA Runtime to raise an error in all error situations
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-160


8. Existing Issues without proposals

ASSEMBLY-132: Microsoft technical comment about the SCA Assembly Model specification #1
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-132

ASSEMBLY-149: Few comments from Siemens
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-149

ASSEMBLY 138: Assembly specification unclear on Contribution vs Deployment - when can errors in artifacts be reported?
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-138

ASSEMBLY 139: What is a constrainingType file supposed to look like?
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-139

ASSEMBLY 140: Need TAs and testcases for property/@file and property/@many=true
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-140

ASSEMBLY 142: Need a normative statement for @autowire inheritance
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-142

ASSEMBLY 143: There are no conformance statements in section 8.5 (CD03)
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-143

ASSEMBLY 145: Unmarked MUST on line 1030 (CD03)
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-145

ASSEMBLY-150: Some TestCases can only be implemented using specific implementation Languages
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-150

ASSEMBLY-155: Namespace problems in C/C++ .componentType files
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-155

ASSEMBLY-156: Spec is unclear if callback binding names need to be distinct from forward binding names
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-156

ASSEMBLY-157: Make support for constrainingType an optional compliance point
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-157

ASSEMBLY 158: Composite property example contradicts spec definition
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-158

8. AOB

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Contents

Topics

[1]  Opening

[2]  Action Items

[3]  Administrivia

[4]  PR Comments

[5]  2/3 Rule for Issues

[6]  Other Admin

[7]  Test Assertions & Test Cases

[8]  Existing Issues

[9]  ASSEMBLY-121

[10]  AOB

Table of Resolutions

Table of Action Items

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Action Items

Done:

id=2009-07-07-1 status=done owner="Chairs" Determine if 2/3 rule was suspended for PR or repealed

id=2009-07-07-2 status=done owner="Mike Edwards" Raise an issue against Section 12

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Resolutions

• 2009-07-14-1: Return to "standard" 2/3 rule for opening new specification issues
• 2009-07-14-2: ASSEMBLY-121 resolved with proposal as described in these minutes

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Minutes

<Mike Edwards>

Greetings, folks

Scribe: Eric Wells

Opening

<Martin C>

Bob Freund on LOA

Roll 18/24 - Quorate

Agenda - as posted

Minutes of 7-Jul-09

http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/sca-assembly/download.php/33286/SCA%20Assembly%20minutes%202009-07-07.html

Resolution of ASSEMBLY-137 not recorded

Open/Closed issues note recorded

AI for MikeE to raise item against Section 12 not recorded

Minutes need to be updated before approval

Action Items

Action: id=2009-07-07-1 status=done owner="Chairs" Determine if 2/3 rule was suspended for PR or repealed

See Administrivia

Action: id=2009-07-07-2 status=done owner="Mike Edwards" Raise an issue against Section 12

Administrivia

PR Comments

Still need to respond to some proposals and resolve issues

<Martin C>

http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/sca-assembly/email/archives/200907/msg00019.html

2/3 Rule for Issues

MartinC:

We should really rescind suspension of 2/3 rule for new issues.

Motion: Return to "standard" 2/3 rule for opening new specification issues m=MartinC s=DaveB

No discussion - No objections

Resolution: Return to "standard" 2/3 rule for opening new specification issues

Other Admin

Bob Freund on LOA

Test Assertions & Test Cases

OASIS admin has problem with generated Java namespaces

MikeE:

working with OASIS Admin to resolve - Test Suite still not published

MikeE:

Has also produced snapshot of subversion repository to allow changes without affection PR of Test Suite

Existing Issues

ASSEMBLY-121

Latest proposal

ASSEMBLY 121: Conformance to OPTIONAL Normative Statements
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-121

<Dave Booz>

http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-assembly/200906/msg00183.html

<Mike Edwards>

...is the current proposal for Issue 121

<Mike Edwards>

The document is: sca-assembly-1.1-cd03+ASSEMBLY121-Rev2.doc

EricW:

Made changes as discussed previously - split Conformance items tables into Mandatory and "Optional" Appdx C

EricW:

Simplified number of discretionary categroies

Ashok:

How to handle MUST use one of following options

MikeE:

Discussion of how would be represented - OK

<Dave Booz>

Eric, my comment was in email: http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-assembly/200907/msg00020.html

DaveB:

ASM12029 currently Enhancement, but should beInteroperation

MartinC:

Remove "Sepcification" categroy bullet

MartinC:

There should be RFC2119 "SHOULD" in 13.2.1 to implement all item from particular categroy

AnishK:

Don't think this would work.

Discussion of pross & cons

<anish>

i think if we want to create categories, we might want to do that based on things like what makes things more interop or more portable -- the way i look at it is: this is creating a profile (in a sense)

BryanA:

Agrees with Anish - some statements might not work together

 

...seems wrong to FORCE implementors to impliment everything in a categroy.

Motion: Resolve ASSEMBLY-121 with proposal with follwoing changes m=AnishK s=MartinC

Changes - Remove "Specifiction" bullet in 13.2.1

- Change ASM12029 classification to Interoperation

Remove last paragraph of 13.2.1

<Mike Edwards>

Change - remove the final paragraph of 13.2.1

<Martin C>

change: can be implemented SCA Runtimes

<Martin C>

to: MAY be implemented by an SCA Runtime

<Mike Edwards>

Amendment proposed by Martin, seconded by Anish: Change 1st sentence of 13.2.1 from "can be implemented SCA Runtimes" to "MAY be implemented by an SCA Runtime"

EricW:

I don't think we can add a "MAY" to statements the include "SHOULD" - weakens/strenthens actual normative statements

EricW:

Object to ammendment

<Martin C>

3 yes 5 no 10 abs

amendment fails

No further discussion of main motion

No objections

Resolution: ASSEMBLY-121 resolved with proposal as described in these minutes

proposal http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-assembly/200906/msg00183.html

<Mike Edwards>

Thank you for scribing, Eric

<Mike Edwards>

not easy when you have a major issue proposal to deal with at the same time

The problem is is wasn't a major issue until today!

AOB

Straggler role - Vamsi & Anish

Issue log 26 Open intially - 0 New issues - 1 Resolved

COB 9:01AM PDT

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