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Subject: RE: [sca-j] ISSUE 4 - Dependency reinjection
I think it that such a capability sounds reasonable. I wonder, however,
if it might be better to hold off on standardizing it until we have more
experience. I don't feel strongly against including such a feature in
the standard, but I'm just concerned that if we include too many
features that are included only to address a corner case (which this
seems to be), then people will see SCA as being a complex technology.
Michael
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From: David Booz [mailto:booz@us.ibm.com]
Sent: Tuesday, December 04, 2007 9:37 PM
To: sca-j@lists.oasis-open.org
Subject: RE: [sca-j] ISSUE 4 - Dependency reinjection
It's simple, just not well expressed. I'm wondering if there are cases
where a component implementation might want to delay or "opt out" of
re-injection either permanently or temporarily. There might be cases
where
a particular component implementation really can't tolerate a
re-injection.
I was thinking out loud about using concurrency control as a temporary
means to delay re-injection. There are other ways. Maybe a different
approach like an annotation @AllowsReinjection (or the opposite) is
sufficient.
I understand that what you are proposing is optional for a runtime to
support, but for those runtimes that do support it, each component
implementation might need to have a say in how it works. Still thinking
out loud....
Dave Booz
STSM, SCA and WebSphere Architecture
Co-Chair OASIS SCA-Policy TC
"Distributed objects first, then world hunger"
Poughkeepsie, NY (845)-435-6093 or 8-295-6093
e-mail:booz@us.ibm.com
http://washome.austin.ibm.com/xwiki/bin/view/SCA2Team/WebHome
"Michael Rowley"
<mrowley@bea.com>
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RE: [sca-j] ISSUE 4 - Dependency
reinjection
-----Original Message-----
From: David Booz [mailto:booz@us.ibm.com]
Sent: Tuesday, December 04, 2007 3:06 PM
To: sca-j@lists.oasis-open.org
Subject: RE: [sca-j] ISSUE 4 - Dependency reinjection
Michael,
And tagging on a few more questions:
1) I presume that the use of setter based injection would allow
for]
concurrency serialization by the component implementation so that
it
could:
stabilize it's use of references. This brings up an interesting
question;:
is there (or should there be) some linkage between the lifecycle
of
the
target service and these references? Just because a ref target
has
been
altered, does not mean that the target service is gone. It's the
lifecycle
of that target service which will determine how long a reference
remains
usable after a wiring change occurs. Just raising the question
for
now
because it will affect all the component's whose references can't
be
re-injected.
[MR: I'm sorry, but I don't follow you.]
2) I'm curious about your introduction of InvalidServiceException.
We
already have ServiceUnavailableException. I think there's room to
clarify
the wording of SUE to make room for ISE..
[MR: I think that a service that has been correctly identified, but
isn't
currently available is quite different from a service that is
incorrectly
identified (it isn't in the logical domain). As such, I think it
deserves
a different exception.]
3) +1 to Mike E.
[MR: No objection from me.]
Michael
Dave Booz
STSM, SCA and WebSphere Architecture
Co-Chair OASIS SCA-Policy TC
"Distributed objects first, then world hunger"
Poughkeepsie, NY (845)-435-6093 or 8-295-6093
e-mail:booz@us.ibm.com
http://washome.austin.ibm.com/xwiki/bin/view/SCA2Team/WebHome
Mike Edwards
<mike_edwards@uk.
ibm.com>
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RE: [sca-j] ISSUE 4 -
Dependency
reinjection
Michael,
Thanks for the proposal. It is good to have something concrete as
it
help
crystallise the
issues.
Please help me understand the rationale for treating
Composite-scoped
components
differently from Conversation scoped components.
Both types of component have an extended lifecycle. Both may
easily
have a
lifecycle
that spans changes in configuration that affects their references,
even
where those
references are not conversational and do not in themselves involve
some
extended
lifetime. Why is it justified to change references in the one
case
and not
allow changes
in the other case?
Yours, Mike.
Strategist - Emerging Technologies, SCA & SDO.
Co Chair OASIS SCA Assembly TC.
IBM Hursley Park, Mail Point 146, Winchester, SO21 2JN, Great
Britain.
Phone & FAX: +44-1962-818014 Mobile: +44-7802-467431
Email: mike_edwards@uk.ibm.com
"Michael Rowley" <mrowley@bea.com> wrote on 29/11/2007 20:19:28:
>
> I took an action item to make a more specific proposal for:
> dependency reinjection. Here it is:
>
> Reinjection
> -----------
>
> References MAY be reinjected after the initial creation of a
> component due to a change in wiring that has occurred since the
> component was initialized. In order for reinjection to occur,
the
> following MUST be true:
> - The component MUST be composite-scoped.
> - The reference MUST use either field-based injection or setter
> injection. References that are injected through constructor
> injection MUST NOT be changed.
> - If the reference has a conversational interface, then a
> conversation MUST NOT be active at the time of the reinjection.
>
> If processing in reaction to a change in a reference is
necessary,
> then setter injection should be used, with code in the setter
method
> that does the proper processing in reaction to a change.
>
> Components with any scope other than the composite scope MUST
NOT
> have references reinjected. If an operation is called on a
> reference where the target of that reference is no longer valid,
> then InvalidServiceException MUST be thrown.
>
> In cases where changes to a reference are not valid, the
reference
> as accessed through the component context also MUST NOT change.
> More precisely, the ComponentContext.getService() and
> getServiceReference() methods MUST return the same reference
target
> as would be accessed through injection. However, the
> ServiceReference that is returned by getServiceReference() never
> changes its target. If the wiring of a composite component
causes
a
> reference to be reinjected, any ServiceReference object that was
> acquired before the reinjection will still correspond to the
target
> prior to the change. If the target service for a
ServiceReference
> ever becomes invalid, then attempts to call business methods
through
> that ServiceReference MUST throw InvalidServiceException.
>
> The rules for reference reinjection also apply to references
with a
> 0..N or 1..N. This means that in the cases listed above where
> reference reinjection is not allowed, the array or Collection
for
> the reference MUST NOT change their contents. In cases where
the
> contents of a reference collection MAY change, then for
references
> that use setter injection, the setter method MUST be called for
any
> change to the contents. The injected collection MAY be the same
> collection object as is currently used by the component, but
with
> some change to its contents.
>
> Michael
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