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Subject: Raw chat log of 2010-01-15 telcon
Mark Combellack: - Roll Call
http://www.oasis-open.org/committees/membership.php?wg_abbrev=sca-j
- Appointment of scribe. List attached below
- Agenda bashing
- Approval of minutes for 1st February 2010
http://www.oasis-open.org/committees/download.php/36295/SCA%20Java%20Minutes%202010-02-01.doc
- Approval of minutes for 8th February 2010
http://www.oasis-open.org/committees/download.php/36315/SCA%20Java%20Minutes%202010-02-08.doc
0. Administration
- Open Issue Status:
CAA + POJO: 0
EJB Binding: 0
Spring: 2
JEE: 6
Total Open: 8
1. Review action items:
Action Items that I believe are done:
2010-02-01-01: Dave to create CDs for POJO and EJB Binding specifications
2010-02-01-02: Mike to check code in SVN matches specification docs
Action Items that I believe are still to be done:
2009-07-06-01: Dave B to raise to liaison (so that other C&Is can
consider and possibly assembly) that non-XML based C&Is should state how
the conversion of property values happens
2009-07-17-01: Mike to create an example of the componentType
introspection (JAVA-5
2009-09-28-05: Dave to look at unstated prereqs for JCI-TA-8005/8006
2009-11-09-01: Anish to point out specific locations for editorial
corrections (s/./,/) for issue 150 proposal.
2010-02-01-03: Anish to provide non-normative text to resolve 166 per
directional motion
2010-02-01-04: Mike to look at JAVA-182 and prepare a CD draft for
Spring C&I
2. New Issues (Requires 2/3rds)
None
3. Remaining Open Issues for JAA and POJO specifications
None
4. Progress to Public Review
a. SCA Java API jar file (Mike)
Latest discussion:
http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-j/201002/msg00029.html
http://www.oasis-open.org/committees/download.php/36303/sca-apis-1.1.jar
b. POJO (C&I) CD02 candidate (Dave)
Latest discussion:
http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-j/201002/msg00012.html
Note: Link in above email is not to the latest version so please use
link below.
http://www.oasis-open.org/committees/download.php/36230/sca-javaci-1.1-spec-cd02.doc
c. Latest CAA specification CD04 (Dave, Mike & Bryan)
There are two versions - CD04 and CD04a with Java API changes
CD04 version
Latest discussion:
http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-j/201002/msg00025.html
http://www.oasis-open.org/committees/download.php/36297/sca-javacaa-1.1-spec-cd04.doc
CD04a
Latest discussion:
http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-j/201002/msg00029.html
http://www.oasis-open.org/committees/download.php/36304/sca-javacaa-1.1-spec-cd04a.doc
d. EJB Binding CD02 candidate (Dave)
Latest discussion:
http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-j/201002/msg00010.html
http://www.oasis-open.org/committees/download.php/36195/sca-ejbbinding-1.1-spec-cd02.doc
5. Open Issues with proposals ready for discussion (Spring/EJB/JEE)
None
6. Issues waiting for updated proposals (Spring/EJB/JEE)
a. JAVA-109: Property and reference names computed from SCA annotations
in web modules not specified explicitly
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/JAVA-109
Proposal in Jira
Waiting for updated proposal (Vamsi)
b. JAVA-182: SCA Spring C & I specs needs to refactor text under
abstract and introduction
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/JAVA-182
No proposal (Ram)
c. JAVA-174: Consider portlets in the SCA JEE specification
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/JAVA-174
d. JAVA-91: Java EE Spec: Need to define the derivation of the name of a
component contributed to the Domain by an application.composite file
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/JAVA-91
Waiting for updated proposal (Mike)
e. JAVA-93: JEE Integration spec needs to define how effective CT is
calculated
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/JAVA-93
Waiting for updated proposal (Anish)
f. JAVA-108: RFC2119 Language is needed for the SCA-JEE Specification
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/JAVA-108
Waiting for updated proposal
g. JAVA-88: Java EE Spec: The @archive attribute of the
implementation.jee element needs fixing
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/JAVA-88
No proposal
Plamen to check whether on his informal JEE issues list
h. JAVA-166: Spring C&I does not say anything about SCA annotations
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/JAVA-166
Directional proposal:
http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-j/201002/msg00000.html (Anish)
(Note: May be able to make progress on JAVA-144 depending on what
happens with this issue)
7. AOB
a. Straggler roll call
---------------------------------------------------------------
Rotating scribe list:
Graham Charters IBM (5)
Yang Lei IBM (11)
Plamen Pavlov SAP AG (3)
Anish Karmarkar Oracle Corporation (14)
Mike Edwards IBM (16)
Martin Chapman Oracle Corporation (16)
Bryan Aupperle IBM (21)
Ashok Malhotra Oracle Corporation (1
Mike Edwards: I think Dave's forgotten to pay the bill for the
conference lines
Mike Edwards: I can't get in
Mark Combellack: ah
Mike Edwards: ok, I can get in via the US dial in
Bryan Aupperle: My attempts to dial in are not being answered...
Please change your name from 'anonymous' using the Settings button
Mike Edwards: Which # are you trying Bryan?
anish: Scribe: naish
anish: Scribe: anish
anish: Topic: agenda bashing
anish: No changes, agenda approved.
anish: Topic: Approval of 2010-02-01 minutes
anish:
http://www.oasis-open.org/committees/download.php/36295/SCA%20Java%20Minutes%202010-02-01.doc
anish: Resolution: Minutes of 2010-02-01 at
http://www.oasis-open.org/committees/download.php/36295/SCA%20Java%20Minutes%202010-02-01.doc
approved
anish: Topic: Approval of 2010-02-08 minutes
anish:
http://www.oasis-open.org/committees/download.php/36315/SCA%20Java%20Minutes%202010-02-08.doc
anish: Resolution: Minutes of 2010-02-08 at
http://www.oasis-open.org/committees/download.php/36315/SCA%20Java%20Minutes%202010-02-08.doc
approved
anish: Topic: Issue status
anish: CAA + POJO: 0
EJB Binding: 0
Spring: 2
JEE: 6
Total Open: 8
anish: Topic: AI review
anish: 2010-02-01-01 and 2010-02-01-02 are done
anish: Everything else is pending
anish: Topic: SCA Java API jar file
anish: Latest discussion:
http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-j/201002/msg00029.html
http://www.oasis-open.org/committees/download.php/36303/sca-apis-1.1.jar
anish: MikeE: the source is in SVN
anish: ... we'll have to publish that along with the spec. The jar file
is what everyone will use, but it is just compilation of what is in SVN
anish: ... fixed a few bugs
anish: ... The source and spec are now in sync
anish: ... Included a maven build file
anish: No comments on the API file(s)
anish: MikeE: the files should be part of the PR
anish: Topic: POJO (C&I) CD02 candidate
anish: Latest discussion:
http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-j/201002/msg00012.html
Note: Link in above email is not to the latest version so please use
link below.
http://www.oasis-open.org/committees/download.php/36230/sca-javaci-1.1-spec-cd02.doc
anish: Mark: Are we ready for PR? Are folks happy with it?
anish: No comment from anyone
anish: Mark: anyone unhappy with the drafts?
anish: MikeE: the actual doc has change mark, we'll have to remove that
before publishing
anish: Anish: i think we should publish both, with change marks from
previous CD and a clean version
anish: MikeE: yes, but the current change marks are not from previous CD
anish: Bryan: and there should be no change marks for the front page
anish: MikeE: I think it is ready to go
anish: Motion: MikeE moves Bryan seconds to make
http://www.oasis-open.org/committees/download.php/36230/sca-javaci-1.1-spec-cd02.doc
as our CD02 and publish it
anish: motion passes w/o
anish: Resolution:
http://www.oasis-open.org/committees/download.php/36230/sca-javaci-1.1-spec-cd02.doc
is CD02 and published on docs.oasis-open.org
anish: Motion: MikeE moves Bryan seconds to make Java CI CD02 as our 2nd
PR lasting 15 days
anish: motion passes w/o
anish: Resolution: Java CI CD02 will be the 2nd PR lasting for 15 days
anish: Topic: Latest CAA specification CD04
anish: Latest discussion:
http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-j/201002/msg00029.html
http://www.oasis-open.org/committees/download.php/36304/sca-javacaa-1.1-spec-cd04a.doc
anish: Mark: 4a is what we should be looking at. Is that correct?
anish: MikeE: yes
anish: MikeE: 4a does not contain just the change mark between 4 and 4a
anish: MikeE reviews the changes for API in 4a
anish: MikeE: the code in section Appendix B was correct. The changes
were in the main section text
anish: No comments from anyone on the changes
anish: Motion: MikeE moves Bryan seconds to adopt
http://www.oasis-open.org/committees/download.php/36304/sca-javacaa-1.1-spec-cd04a.doc
of the CAA spec as CD04 and publish it
anish: Motion approved w/o
anish: Resolution:
http://www.oasis-open.org/committees/download.php/36304/sca-javacaa-1.1-spec-cd04a.doc
is CAA CD04 and published to docs.oasis-open.org
anish: Motion: MikeE moves Bryan seconds to publish the
http://www.oasis-open.org/committees/download.php/36303/sca-apis-1.1.jar
(SCA API jar file) along with CD04
anish: Bryan: should we include "cd04" in the jar file name?
anish: anish: makes sense to me
anish: Amendment: Bryan moves MikeE seconds to rename the file to
sca-apis-1.1-cd04.jar
anish: anish: should it be sca-caa-apis-1.1-cd04.jar ?
anish: MikeE: we don't have any other APIs, but it is possible that we
have others, eg spring
anish: Mark: could be mythical spring annotations
anish: Amendment fails
anish: Amendment: Anish moves Bryan seconds to rename the file
sca-caa-apis-1.1-cd04.jar
anish: Amendment approved w/o
anish: Main motion -- publish the
http://www.oasis-open.org/committees/download.php/36303/sca-apis-1.1.jar
(SCA API jar file) along with CD04 and call it sca-caa-apis-1.1-cd04.jar
anish: Motion approved w/o
anish: Resolution: SCA caa apis jar file to be published with CD04 and
named sca-caa-apis-1.1-cd04.jar
anish: Motion: MikeE moves Bryan seconds to make CAA CD04 our 2nd PR
lasting 15 days
anish: Motion: approved w/o
anish: Resolution: CD04 will be the 2nd PR spec lasting 15 days
anish: s/CD04/CAA CD04/
anish: Topic: EJB Binding CD02 candidate
anish: Latest discussion:
http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-j/201002/msg00010.html
http://www.oasis-open.org/committees/download.php/36195/sca-ejbbinding-1.1-spec-cd02.doc
anish: MikeE: I don't think Dave has made anything other than ed changes
from the last draft
anish: Anish: batch this with Spring C&I?
anish: MikeE: Spring C&I has a few issues
anish: Bryan: is this the 1st review
anish: anish: yes
anish: anish: don't want to batch ejb binding/spring with CAA/POJO,
might be confusing
anish: Motion: MikeE moves Bryan seconds to accept
http://www.oasis-open.org/committees/download.php/36195/sca-ejbbinding-1.1-spec-cd02.doc
as our CD 02 and to publish it
anish: Motion approved w/o
anish: Resolution:
http://www.oasis-open.org/committees/download.php/36195/sca-ejbbinding-1.1-spec-cd02.doc
is EJB binding CD02 and will be published
anish: Motion: MikeE moves Bryan seconds to make EJB binding CD02 our
1st PR draft with PR lasting 60 days
anish: Motion approved w/o
anish: Resolution: EJB binding CD02 will be the 1st PR draft with PR
lasting 60 days
anish: Topic: AIs for PRs
anish: Need to clean up the docs, generate PDFs and HTML, generate diffs
anish: MikeE: we have published EJB binding CD 01
anish: ... but was not made a PR
anish: Action: Mike to clean up the docs, generate the diff
anish: Action: Anish to generate the PDF and html files
anish: Bryan: do we want to combine the POJO and CAA specs wrt
publication and sending it to TC admin?
anish: MikeE: yes
anish: Mark: makes sense
anish: Mark: do we need to update anything from assembly?
anish: Action: MikeE to check if the RDDL needs to be updated for Java
TC CDs
anish: Action: Chair to submit the specs to TC admin for PR (when the
packages are ready)
anish: Meeting adjourned
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