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[ubl] Fwd: [ubl-ndrsc] Minutes for 5 December 2001 UBL NDR meeting

From: Eve Maler
To: [email protected]
Date: Wed, 05 Dec 2001 14:51:00 -0000

We're making good meta-progress on our overall document outline (which translates into our marching orders, sort of), but will attempt to make "real" progress on the two highest-priority position papers in the next two weeks. >Date: Wed, 05 Dec 2001 13:21:08 -0500 >From: "Eve L. Maler" <[email protected]> >Subject: [ubl-ndrsc] Minutes for 5 December 2001 UBL NDR meeting >To: [email protected] >List-Archive: <http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/ubl-ndrsc> > >NDR SC portal: http://www.oasis-open.org/committees/ubl/ndrsc/ > >PLEASE NOTE: The group agreed that we WILL meet during the following two >weeks, starting one hour later than our normal time and meeting for only >an hour each time. We will focus on tag structures on December 12 and >extension methodology on December 19. Everyone PLEASE use email to send >your comments and the results of your action items -- we need your brain cells! > >1. Roll call (quorum is 9) > > Bill Burcham YES (x:10) > Doug Bunting YES (x:25) > Dave Carlson YES > Mavis Cournane YES (y:00) > Mark Crawford YES > John Dumay > Matt Gertner YES > Jack Gager > Arofan Gregory YES (x:10) > Eduardo Gutentag YES (x:16; gave us quorum) > Eve Maler YES > Dale McKay YES > Sue Probert > Marion Royal > Gunther Stuhec YES > Mike Rawlins YES (x:45) > Maryann Richards yes (non-voting) > Bob Glushko yes (non-voting) > > Quorum not achieved as of x:06. We proceeded informally until x:16. > >2. Acceptance of minutes of previous meeting: > 28 November 2001 meeting: > http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/ubl-ndrsc/200111/msg00110.html > Accepted. > >3. Adoption of agenda > Adopted as is. > >4. Action item review > > ACTION: Eve to write a section for the NDR document documenting the > choice of schema language, and a position paper for the archives. > Continued. > > ACTION: Arofan to create a new use case for instance constraint > checking. > Continued. > > ACTION: Mark to revise the NDR document to reflect editorial > directions by next meeting, if possible. > DONE. > > ACTION: Arofan/Sue/Lisa to provide the xCBL naming guidelines (and > all the other xCBL guidelines!). > Continued. > > ACTION: Mark to update naming position paper with our suggestions > (including email suggestions). > Has a dependency on Arofan providing examples and UDEF information. > Continued. > > ACTION: Mark to take a look at the original XML 1.0 design principles > to see if it's useful to add any of them to our document. > DONE (was put in the NDR document as a placeholder). > > ACTION: Arofan to send a pointer to the draft ebtWG specification that > has a process diagram that will be helpful for figuring out use case > actors. > DONE. The version that's on the NDR portal, is slightly out of date > but its narrative about actors will still be useful. > >http://www.oasis-open.org/committees/ubl/ndrsc/input/Core-Components-Technical-Specification-Ver-1PT6.doc > > ACTION: Sue and Maryann to do some use case brainstorming offline. > Continued. > > ACTION: Dale and Sue to work up tag structure examples and examine > them in light of the two "PatientParty" circumstances listed in > the November 28 minutes. Other interested parties are Mark, Arofan, > Eduardo. Due by December 5. > Continued. > > ACTION: Mark to check with Mike on what the purpose of Section 5.4 is, > and follow up with editorial changes as necessary. > Continued. > > ACTION: Mark to insert into the NDR document links to the existing > position papers, with notes about their being extremely non-settled > and non-normative. > Continued. > >New action items appear below as well. > >5. Current position paper champions, status, and priorities > > Mark: > - Markup naming (A-priority) > - Design principles > - Relationship between UBL and UN/CEFACT constructs > > Eve: > - Choice of schema language (A-priority) > > Doug: > - TPA > > Arofan: > - Customization (A-priority) > > Bill: > - Modularization/namespaces/versioning > > Gunther: > - Elements vs. attributes > - NEW: Document size and performance considerations (Section 6.1) > > Dave: > - Use cases (with Maryann) (A-priority) > - Local vs. global elements > > Mike: > - Code (enumerated) lists > >6. XML 2001 messages to give Jon > We agreed to pass along the following messages: > > - Review the charter for our SC and provide NDR portal URL > discuss relationship among the "technical" subcommittees in > particular > . Names of the technical SCs > . Charter text for the technical SCs > . URL for NDR portal > > - Review our use cases (if we feel they're developed enough by then) > . Working methodology is to develop rules in response to use cases > . These distinguish UBL project from other XSD-using projects > . Quick list of use cases we're working on > > - Give an idea of the breadth we're trying to cover in NDR > . Markup naming > . Modularity, namespaces, versioning > . Customization (additive/subtractive) > . Enumerated lists > . Elements vs. attributes > . Local vs. global elements > . Tip of the iceberg -- just the highest priority -- see draft outline > > - Structured customization methodology > . Context = business situation > . Need context-dependent changes in business document structure > . Give an example (add GPS field to address in automotive sector) > . We will provide a machine-readable means for specifying these changes > > - Talk about the validator support issue and our software test list > . Chose XSD for development, but have concerns (keep looking at > RELAX NG out of the corner of our eye) > . First and foremost -- no interoperability between validators! > . Concerns about restriction support > . Concerns about namespace support > > ACTION: Eve to send final notes to Jon and the SC by Thursday. > >7. Finish going through the NDR document outline and assign more champions > > Mark and Eve took notes on all changes agreed to by the SC. > > ACTION: Everyone to review the NDR document and send all comments to > Mark by Friday COB. > > ACTION: Mark to turn around a new draft by early next week. > > NEW TERM: > Assembly: Using parts of the library of reusable UBL components to > create a new kind of business document type. > >8. Legal issues (following on to Arofan's posting) >9. Use case review (Maryann Richards) >10. Tag structure position >11. Customization position > All deferred. > >12. Next steps > > Meeting schedule: we will meet during the next two weeks, at noon-1pm > ET instead of 11am-1pm ET. > - December 12: Tag structure > - December 19: Extension > >13. Adjourn > Adjourned at z:08. -- Eve Maler +1 781 442 3190 Sun Microsystems XML Technology Center eve.maler @ sun.com