Minutes of Pacific UBL TC call 14 October 2004

[jon.bosak@sun.com]

MINUTES OF PACIFIC UBL TC MEETING
00H30 - 02H30 UTC THURSDAY 14 OCTOBER 2004
   17h30 - 19h30 Wed San Francisco
   08h30 - 10h30 Thu Hong Kong, Singapore, Perth
   09h30 - 11h30 Thu Seoul, Tokyo, Beijing
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ATTENDANCE

   Jon Bosak (chair)
   G. Ken Holman
   Tim McGrath
   Sylvia Webb

STANDING ITEMS

   Calendar review: http://ibiblio.org/bosak/ubl/calendar.htm

      No new items, but note that neither TM nor TL will be
      available for the ebXML Asia Committee meeting 27-29
      October.

   Event reports (see calendar)

      None.

   Liaison reports

      Tax XML Liaison Team: SW is in the process of scheduling a
      conference call for the week of 10/25 that will be reported
      at the TC meeting in Santa Clara.  Four people from the Tax
      XML TC have volunteered to participate, including the chair
      of the U.S. XBRL group.

   HISC report

      GKH: Nothing new; has not heard from Fabio and has not yet
      implemented the proposed new meeting schedule.

   [SSC report: covered as part of EDIFIX discussion]

   TBG17 Liaison Team report

EDIFIX (EF) DISCUSSION

   TM: From the UBL customizer's point of view, the primary
   interface will still be the spreadsheets.  The use of EF will
   be primarily for two purposes: 1. to hold the definitive copy
   of the UBL library, so all future development of UBL will have
   to filter into that; and 2. to generate schemas from the
   definitive model, which means that within the UBL TC there will
   need to be a custodian/librarian to maintain it, including the
   shipping in and out of spreadsheets as required.

   JB: The normative pieces will still have to be the schemas and
   the generated spreadsheets; the internal format is proprietary.

   TM: The published things will all be generated by the tool, so
   there will never be the possibility that the spreadsheets will
   differ from the schemas.

   Agreed: Gating factors for using the tool include (1) ensuring
   a guaranteed concordance between the generated schemas and the
   generated spreadsheets and (2) continued ability to support
   input spreadsheets.  The round-tripping exercise suggested by
   MD is necessary to establish this.  GEFEG will try to honor
   requests for enhancements to the input spreadsheets, but we
   can't expect total support for any arbitrary change that might
   occur to us.

   Agreed: We can accept the proposal to use EF for UBL 1.1.

OTHER ISSUES FOR DISCUSSION THIS MEETING

   UBL TC meeting in Santa Clara

      Add to agenda: Spreadsheet alignment and EF familiarization

      Add to agenda: Request for participation from HISC

      Attendance in person and by phone: Already noted that TM and
      GKH can't attend.  Try to schedule some plenary sessions for
      dial-in from Asia starting around 4 p.m. in Santa Clara.
      [Actually, the morning time requested for this in Asia would
      be 3 p.m. in Santa Clara, because the U.S. will be reverting
      to Standard Time the morning before the meeting begins.]

   Addition of new items to the work list

      None.

   Other business

      In accordance with the decision to skip the 27 October
      Atlantic call and in recognition of two meetings in Asia
      that will occupy the attention of several Pacific call
      participants that week, we will skip the 28 October Pacific
      call as well.

      TM and GKH will not be available for the 21 October call,
      but JB will attempt a short meeting anyway.  Anyone needing
      to check in from Asia-Pacific should dial in at the
      beginning so that the meeting can end early if possible.

Jon Bosak
Chair, OASIS UBL TC