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Subject: Minutes of Pacific UBL TC call 11|12 July 2005
MINUTES OF PACIFIC UBL TC MEETING
00H30 - 02H30 UTC TUESDAY 12 JULY 2005
ATTENDANCE
Jon Bosak (chair)
Micah Dubinko
Stephen Green
Ken Holman
Tim McGrath
Sylvia Webb
STANDING ITEMS
Additions to the calendar (http://ibiblio.org/bosak/ubl/calendar.htm)
SylviaW: Tax XML meeting September 26; note conflict with
both the CEFACT Forum and ASC X12; will probably be at the
CEFACT Forum.
TimM: 1-5 August TBG17 meeting in Vienna; will attend.
Liaison report: CEN/ISSS eInvoicing workshop
TimM (channeling for MikkelB): ChristianC attended. This
effort appears to be focusing on the Chemical and
Engineering industries.
Liaison report: CEN/ISSS document modeling workshop
TimM (channeling for MikkelB): MikkelB invited people to
participate in the eCatalogue workshop organized by DK. His
presentation appears to have been well received.
Liaison report: CEN/ISSS C-Cat workshop
TimM (channeling for MikkelB): This work is focused on
syntax-neutral modeling in a way that could complement
UBL. We certainly want their input and hope that we can
collaborate.
Liaison report: Tax XML TC
SylviaW: Resource issues dominated the call last week. The
TC is very interested in working with UBL but cannot commit
yet to attending regular meetings or creating implementation
guides. However, they are happy to schedule participation
in conference calls to discuss particular subjects and to
engage in discussions by email.
TimM: For example, Dave Chambers of the Tax XML TC will be
attending this week's Eurasia TC call to discuss tax-related
issues.
Subcommittee report: HISC
KenH: Nothing to report; next meeting tomorrow evening.
Very glad to see that Zarella will be attending the meeting
in Ottawa.
JonB: So we will make HISC its own track at that meeting.
KenH: Have we finalized the list of new docs for the
extended process model?
TimM: The only feedback received on version 0.9 has been
editorial, so the list looks solid. Will send out a version
1.0 after this call.
JonB: So we will sign off on the extended process model
during this week's Eurasia and Atlantic calls.
ACTION: Last call for TC to review version 1.0 of the plan.
Subcommittee report: SSC
StephenG: Should soon have the GEFEG work done for Ottawa.
SylviaW: DavidK is hoping to have new schemas to the list
this Friday.
Team report: Transportation
TimM: Didn't meet last week but will meet this Friday to
establish a regular call schedule and start incorporating
the DTTN contributions.
ACTION: Transportation team to decide whether the DTTN
contribution is a PR opp for them.
Team report: Procurement
TimM: Finalized the extended process model last week and
discussed how to start development. The team will meet next
Friday. TimM will meet with OGC and IDA over the next
couple of weeks.
Review of Eurasia and Atlantic TC minutes
The group continued the discussion of Reusable noted in the
Atlantic TC minutes. It appears that earlier concerns
regarding the proposal would not apply if the changes were
restricted to the structure of the spreadsheets.
AGREED that we will divide the spreadsheets as proposed by
Saito-san using the terminology proposed by JonB with the
understanding that we will adhere to CCTS, populate the
"context" columns in the spreadsheets, and not change the
structure of the schemas.
AGREED that we will use the term "context-specific
libraries" in generic references to the Transportation
Library and the Procurement Library.
We understand from Saito-san's proposal that any element
used in more than one context will always be put in the
(non-context-specific) Common Library (though not all
elements in the Common Library will necessarily be used in
more than one context-specific library).
ACTION: JonB to put these decisions on the agenda for this
week's Atlantic call.
TimM: The NDR team should think about whether to extend this
division to the schema level as well.
JonB: So noted.
REVIEW OF ACTION ITEMS FROM LAST MEETING (28 JUNE)
PENDING ACTION: StephenG to provide an SBS timeline for the UBL
2.0 schedule.
StephenG: Done, and have also produced a phase 0 SBS invoice.
PENDING ACTION: JonB to schedule a discussion of CCTS
compliance that will include MarkC and MichaelD.
Status: This is waiting MarkC's return from vacation. The
question (which arose out of email) is: in what way is 1.0
not CCTS compliant, and how can we ensure that 2.0 is
compliant? Issues include ACCs and CC types.
TimM: This still needs to happen. UBL was an early adopter
working way ahead of CEFACT's ability to answer questions
about this.
JonB: Maybe this is a question for TMG.
AGREED that MarkC and MichaelD need to agree on whether UBL
is or is not CCTS compliant.
PENDING ACTION: To schedule the preparation of spreadsheets for
Tax XML after we see the outcome of the Tax XML TC meeting this
week [the week of 27 June].
StephenG: Have completed the SBS Invoice spreadsheet and now
need their input.
ACTION: SylviaW to convey the SBS Invoice to the Tax XML TC
and solicit their feedback.
PENDING ACTION: SylviaW to produce a row on "Tax XML TC
collaboration" for inclusion in the UBL 2.0 schedule before the
Pacific call 11|12 July.
SylviaW: Could not complete this due to the Tax XML TC's
inability to commit resources at the present time. We will
need to revisit this in October.
PENDING ACTION: SylviaW to find out where we stand with payment
terms and payment means, TimM to respond to Oriol.
TimM: Done. SylviaW's research established that we had not
dealt with this as we thought, so it has been added to the
content issues list. In the process, SylviaW determined
that a ubl-dev thread started by Constantine Wasco regarding
transportation elements is relevant to UBL 2.0, and those
comments have therefore been added to the content issues
list.
OTHER BUSINESS
SylviaW: Spoke to BettyH regarding the EF librarian role; she
continues to be interested, so we will need to contact her as
soon as the spreadsheets are ready to be entered.
ACTION: KenH to provide logistical details for the meeting next
month in Ottawa.
TimM and StephenG note that they will participate in the Ottawa
meeting by phone. JonB noted that MarkC has indicated that he
will be doing the same.
CONTENT WORK SESSION
StephenG has sent out the latest version of the content issues
list (11 July).
ACTION: JonB to communicate the change in ownership of the
issues list to BettyH.
Responsibility for creating initial document models for the
extended procurement process has been assigned as follows:
- Sourcing collaboration documents will be drafted by the DK
group
- Fulfillment collaboration documents will be drafted by the
Asian group
- Billing documents will be drafted by StephenG
- Payment documents will be drafted by SylviaW
StephenG will now prototype the extended Invoice and the Credit
Note so that we can finalize those models on this call next
week (i.e., far enough so that the other teams can develop doc
types based on the same principles).
ACTION: StephenG to distribute drafts of Invoice and Credit
Note to the list for discussion.
Jon Bosak
Chair, OASIS UBL TC
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