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Subject: Minutes of Pacific UBL TC call 21|22 November 2005
MINUTES OF PACIFIC UBL TC MEETING
00H30 - 02H30 UTC TUESDAY 22 NOVEMBER 2005
ATTENDANCE
Jon Bosak (chair)
Stephen Green
Ken Holman
Tim McGrath
Andy Schoka
Kumar Sivaraman
Sylvia Webb
STANDING ITEMS
Additions to the calendar:
http://ibiblio.org/bosak/ubl/calendar.htm
GKH: SC34 meeting in Seoul: 2006.05.30-06.01
Reports from XML 2005
JB: Update on the Danish experience from MB et al.; UBL
update from JB; GKH secures free use of Ibex XSL-FO
formatter for UBL 1.0 documents.
GKH: Can use same license to hardwire any stylesheets, so
good for UBL 2.0 as well. Now working on XML exposition
stylesheets (to show UBL source). HISC will create
UNLK-like forms for 2.0 documents that don't have UNLK
equivalents.
JB: Also starting work on OOB TPA for U.S. based on ABA
Model TPA for EDI.
TM: Note that UNECE also has a model trading partner
agreement.
Liaison report: Tax XML TC
SW: Are waiting for us to give them draft set of schemas
(Invoice) so that they can begin work on draft guidelines
the first week of December.
Liaison report: ebBP TC
SG: Nothing new; helping them to update and improve the
example in their specification. It would be good if people
could get the latest specification and look at the appendix
-- now's the time if anyone has something to contribute.
Liaison report: UN/CEFACT
JB: The team will be meeting Wednesday; we are waiting for
issues list from OASIS.
TM: Have begun talking to Mark Palmer to start working out
the implementation plan.
Liaison report: X12
KS: Scheduled to talk to Dan K. some time next week, will
report back on that.
Subcommittee report: HISC
[See above under XML 2005 reports]
Subcommittee report: SBSC
JB: Will schedule preliminary request for TC review in this
week's Atlantic call.
Subcommittee report: PSC
SW: Making good progress, but still some additional
definitions and content to enter before we can generate
schemas and spreadsheets for the entire TC; ad interim, PG
will generate some output for Betty to start looking at WRT
NDRs and give a visual check. It will probably be 2-3 more
weeks before something is ready for public review. We need
immediately an update to the NDR doc to reflect changes that
SG has requested, wording WRT supplementary component
definitions, and MB's proposal WRT code lists.
ACTION: SW to put the NDR requests in email so that JB can
put this in the Atlantic agenda for this week.
Subcommittee report: TSC
TM: TSC have been working flat out for the last two weeks
and are starting to get close to something that looks like
final models. We have the first draft of the spreadsheets
for the extensions to the common library and are close to
the final spreadsheets for the originally proposed four doc
types (waybill, bill of lading, forwarding instruction,
certificate of origin). Confident that we will have final
versions of those after the meeting Thursday. Still working
on the additional set; some may be considered variations of
other doc types. So expecting to have final spreadsheets
for TC review of all the proposed docs in about 10 days.
We're also working on documenting the process models, which
is complicated by the fact that we don't have a single
transportation process to cover due to the way the doc types
were chosen, and we're also aligning the models with the
UNTDED and the data model proposed by the WCO, using the
document froom UN/CEFACT TBG3 that maps between them. So we
are still about a week behind PSC.
Team report: Digital Signatures
TM: PB has come up with a proposal that we can describe
digsigs as a type of attachment and has outlined the plan to
Singapore and HK; now waiting on PB to produce a populated
instance, expected some time this week. So we may be able to
incorporate some sort of digsigs in 2.0.
Team report: Code Lists
GKH: Waiting on TonyC's stylesheets to convert UBL 1.0 CLs
to genericode format.
SW/TM/GKH: It appears that MB is proposing changes that will
require EF programming work. We need to understand this.
GKH: There are four things we need to deal with: 1. How do
we go from spreadsheets to schemas; 2. How do we express
code values (genericode, TonyC's AI); 3. How do we do a
second validation pass (schematron, GKH's AI); 4. Choosing,
categorizing, and enumerating the lists (content work).
Review of Atlantic and Europe/Asia calls
No comments.
Schedule review
http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/ubl/200511/msg00062.html
TM: We are already generating schemas, so we will have
already gone through a round of schema validation. The
bottleneck will be packaging. We should still try to get
the package into OASIS before Xmas.
JB: I now think that the process diagrams should be
normative, as they were in 1.0, in order to specify (e.g.)
what "purchase order" means.
TM: OK as long as there is not an implication that you have
to run the process this way. Something like "these models
describe the normative semantics, but the models themselves
are not normative."
JB: Will take that as the starting point for the language.
ACTION ITEM REVIEW
ACTION: SG and SW to create a UBL UDT spreadsheet that
describes everything in the ATG2 UDT schema, ignoring what UBL
currently has for UDT and QDT, and then create the UBL QDT
using the same structure.
SW: Still pending, but finally have everything I need.
ACTION: SG and SW to manually update the CC parameter schema.
SW: Need NDR change for this. In SG's example, changed
Definition from mandatory to optional, and NDRs say it's
mandatory. Also, "2.0" needs to change to "2".
ACTION: TM to document the spreadsheet structure and format by
first week of November. This means a prose description of each
column in the spreadsheets that we are now using.
SW: Done.
OTHER BUSINESS
GKH: Starting to write up the CL validation methodology; what
format?
JB: Give us PDF.
Jon Bosak
Chair, OASIS UBL TC
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