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From: "Kama, Kamarudin Bin Tambi" <[email protected]>
To: "Tim McGrath" <[email protected]>,"Peter Borresen" <[email protected]>
Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2006 10:14:24 +0800

Yeah, agreed with Tim. The below rule on CCTS DEN might be helpful.

• CCTS DEN

– Be unique

– Be concise and not contain consecutive redundancy words

– Nouns should be expressed in the singular unless the concept is plural

– Do not use non-alphabetical characters unless required by language rules

– Contains only verbs, nouns and adjectives (no word like and, of ,the)

– Acronym should not be included unless they are in the TBG17 list of approved acronyms (in UBL case, those found in Appendix D of UBL NDR 2.0 draft)

– Have multi-word terms separated by a single space

– Have the three name parts of the DEN separated from each other by a period and a single space

– Have Qualifier Terms separated by an underscore and a single space

Rgds

From: Tim McGrath [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Wednesday, June 14, 2006 9:20 AM
To: Peter Borresen
Cc: [email protected]
Subject: Re: SV: [ubl] Groups - UBL 2.0 Working draft 3 spreadsheets (UBL 2.0 WD3.zip) uploaded - comments

i am happy with most this. but see my note on 'Add 2' and 'Add 4'

Peter Borresen wrote:

Add 1

I think it would be better to have a shadow spreadsheets in the same

workbook, one for transport, one for procurement and one generel and leave it

in alphabetic order. It makes it easier to seach.

Add 2

We agreed to allign which TBG1 and we thought that adress was a good starting

point. The problem in puting "Attention of" in Party is that we then also

need to put it in delivery and perhaps also location. But to be honest, we

were not aware of the conflict whith the naming rule and did not either

consider that the elements were already in the Party ABIE.

I wasn't proposing putting 'Attention Of' in the Party ABIE. we already have a 'Mark Attention Indicator' to indicate whether the party is the ultimate party or not. my only concern was the use of the word 'Of'. Technically we cannot use this word.

Add 3

Thanks for noticing this.

Add 4

AdditionalDocumentReference in BillingReference really is

"OtherDocumentReference" and should only be used if one of the other Billing

Refernce types are not sufficient. If you want more than one

AdditionalDocumentReference you Should use AdditionalDocumentReference (in

the document or in the line) or use multiple BillingReference.

is this really the simplest way to do this?

Add 5, 6

Thanks for noticing thing

Kind regards

Peter

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Fra: Tim McGrath [mailto:[email protected]]

Sendt: 12. juni 2006 01:42

Til: Peter Borresen

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Emne: Re: [ubl] Groups - UBL 2.0 Working draft 3 spreadsheets (UBL 2.0

WD3.zip) uploaded - comments

A few comments on the spreadsheets (so far):

1. i thought we agreed to structure the 'common' spreadsheet to be

sorted into 'no specific business process', 'procurement' and

'transportation' rather than one alphabetic list.  If so, it is easily

sorted before publication.  Can we confirm what we plan to do?

2. in the 'Address' ABIE we have BBIEs for 'Attention Of' and 'Care

Of'.  The CCTS does not allow the use of prepositions (of, for,etc).

Thats why we had to change it to 'Mark Attention' and 'Mark Care' in the

Party ABIE.

3. in the 'Address' ABIE the BBIE 'City SubDivision Name' is also

illegal.  'SubDivision' cannot be a Property Term (with the inner

Uppercase) it should be 'Subdivision' (like the 'Subentity' later on).

Only initial characters can be Uppercase.  'SubDivision' would imply two

words, 'Sub' and 'Division'. So we could have 'City Sub Division Name',

but i don't think thats what we meant.

4. in the ASBIE between 'Billing Reference' and 'Document Reference',

did we mean to change the cardinality of the 'Additional' Document

Reference to 0..1 - shouldn't this remain at 0..n?

5. The ABIE 'CatalogueItemSpecificationUpdateLine' should come before

'CatalogueLine' (alphabetic order)

6. The ABIE 'Communication' should come before 'Consignment' (alphabetic

order)

PS

I thought we also discussed not using 'GUID' or 'UUID' but just 'Unique

Identifier' - - when did we decide to change all GUIDs to UUIDs?

[email protected] wrote:

Dear all

Here is the spreassheets for the working draft 3 version of UBL 2.0

There are things that must be taken into considoration

1) Which qDT to use

2) There are inconsistency in the usage of "Property Term Possessive Noun"

and "Property Term Qualifier"

Hopefully GEFEG will soon be able to generate schemas.

Kinf regards

Peter

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