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Minutes of Pacific UBL TC call 29 August 2023 21:00UTC
Minutes of Pacific UBL TC call 29 August 2023 21:00UTC
http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?iso=2023-08-29T21:00:00
Pacific: 16:00MSP/23:00Europe/17:00Ottawa/21:00UTC/07:00Sydney
Participation
Todd Albers
Kenneth Bengtsson (chair)
Erlend Klakegg Bergheim
Kees Duvekot
Levine Naidoo
Referencing the specification
One of the following should be used as a specific citation:
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OASIS Universal Business Language (UBL) v2.3
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OASIS Universal Business Language (UBL) v2.2
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OASIS Universal Business Language (UBL) v2.1 (ISO/IEC 19845:2015)
The following would be used for a general (any version) citation:
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OASIS UBL (ISO/IEC 19845)
The canonical 2.3 documents are available in the OASIS repository:
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http://docs.oasis-open.org/ubl/os-UBL-2.3/
The canonical 2.2 documents are available in the OASIS repository:
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http://docs.oasis-open.org/ubl/os-UBL-2.2/
The canonical 2.1 documents are available in the OASIS repository:
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http://docs.oasis-open.org/ubl/os-UBL-2.1/
The ISO/IEC catalogue entry for UBL 2.1 is found at:
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http://www.iso.org/iso/catalogue_detail.htm/?csnumber=66370
The ISO/IEC document and attachments for UBL 2.1 are found at:
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http://standards.iso.org/ittf/PubliclyAvailableStandards/
Standing items
Additions to events calendar - http://ubl.xml.org/events
Nothing
Wikipedia page
Updates and maintenance of:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Universal_Business_Language
Review of Pacific call minutes
https://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/ubl/202307/msg00008.html
Review of Atlantic call minutes
https://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/ubl/202307/msg00010.html
Membership status review
https://www.oasis-open.org/policies-guidelines/tc-process#membership
New member orientation information:
https://www.oasis-open.org/committees/document.php?document_id=59647
Voting status is determined by the following:
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existing voting members must not miss two consecutive meetings to maintain voting status
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non-voting members must attend two consecutive meetings to obtain voting status
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members formally on leave by prior request must not attend and their voting status is not impacted
Current UBL TC voting member list (alphabetical):
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Todd Albers
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Member of X9, X12 B2X, ISO 20022 Payment SEG, OASIS BDXR, and convenor of the Business Payments Coalition e-Invoice work groups
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Kenneth Bengtsson
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Chair OASIS BDXR, Observer OASIS ebXML, DK Expert UN/CEFACT
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Erlend Klakegg Bergheim
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Member OASIS BDXR, Member OASIS ebXML Core & MS, Member CEN/TC434/WS8
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Peter Borresen
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DK Member CEN/TC440, Convenor CEN/TC440/WG7
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Andrea Caccia
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Paul Donohoe
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Kees Duvekot
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Member OASIS BDXR, Member of the StandaardisatieÂplatform e-factureren
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Cecile Guasch
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Member CEN/TC440, Convenor CEN/TC440/WG1, Convenor CEN/TC440/WG2, European Commission liaison (DIGIT Interoperability Unit)
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Ken Holman
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Member OASIS BDXR, member OASIS Code List Representation TC
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Yves Jordan
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Wim Kok
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Levine Naidoo
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Member OASIS BDXR, Observer OASIS ebXML
TC Vitality Check
The TC must next appoint or reappoint chair(s) in January 2025.
Next TC vitality check must be made in January 2025.
UBL 2.4
Public review
UBL 2.4 CSD02 is in Public Review until September 15. Announcement: https://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/ubl/202308/msg00001.html
Preparation of ISO submission
Submitting the specification to ISO:
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Option 1: Will ISO consider a submission in XML format? Ken will explore options.
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UBL is being considered for participation in a pilot project to allow submission in XML format
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Option 2: Will it be possible to convert from our current format to ISO Word template?
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Option 3: Work in OASIS Word template. Will OASIS TC Admin then convert to ISO Word template? Kenneth will contact TC Admin.
Face to face meeting in Dublin
The TC will be meeting September 26 to 29 at NSAI Offices in Dublin: 1 Swift Square, Northwood, Santry, Dublin, https://goo.gl/maps/Mb5hdimAMcssAs4o7 . An online facility will be available for those not able to attend in person.
Agenda topics:
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Subcommittee reports
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Finalizing UBL 2.4
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ISO submission
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JSON/API pilot
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Interoperability vs. backwards compatibility, strategic options
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As comes forward
Please send input for the agenda to the TC mailing list or directly to Kenneth.
Preliminary agenda:
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Tuesday, September 26
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Afternoon: Subcommittee reports
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Wednesday, September 27
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Morning: ISO submission
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Afternoon: Finalizing UBL 2.4
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Thursday, September 28
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Morning and afternoon: Interoperability vs. backwards compatibility, strategic options
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Friday, September 29
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Morning: JSON/API pilot
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Afternoon: Closing session
UBL Payments and Finance Subcommittee (PayFin)
Nothing
UBL Post-award
Nothing
UBL Pre-award
Nothing
UBL Transportation Subcommittee (TSC)
Nothing
Organisation Master Data Subcommittee
Nothing
TC Liaisons
CEN TCs 434 and 440
Agreed at the Copenhagen face-to-face meeting that the UBL TC is open to establish a formal liaison with CEN TC 434 to create a European or international standard for electronic invoicing, if there is an interest from the CEN TC.
OASIS has reported that there is an agreement on a way forward. The TC has agreed to appoint Wim Kok liaison officer to the CEN TC 434, and Peter Borresen as liaison officer to the CEN TC 440, as recorded here: https://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/ubl/202301/msg00017.html . The appointments have been communicated to OASIS.
ISO/IEC JTC 1/SC 32/WG 1
Decision to appoint Andrea as liaison representative between ISO/IEC JTC 1/SC 32 and the TC recorded here: https://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/ubl/202007/msg00014.html
Last year’s SC 32 meeting was held on June 2022. OASIS should have been following up with the SC 32 secretariat last year but still no progress. Jamie will follow up with SC 32.
ISO TC 323 (WG5)
Cecile is available to serve as liaison officer between ISO TC 323 (WG5) and the UBL TC for facilitating work on the PCDS, under the condition that there is no requirement to join ISO through a national SDO.
The TC has agreed to appoint Cecile Guasch as liaison officer to ISO TC 323, as recorded here: https://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/ubl/202302/msg00000.html . The appointments have been communicated to OASIS.
Subcommittee conference calls
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Organisational Master Data SC will be meeting biweekly on Wednesdays at 15:00 CET.
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Transportation Subcommittee is looking for a new weekly timeslot.
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Other subcommittees will be meeting on an as-required basis.
TC conference call schedule
Call schedule
2023-08-29/2023-08-30
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Pacific: 16:00MSP/23:00Europe/17:00Ottawa/21:00UTC/07:00Sydney
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Atlantic: 09:00MSP/10:00Ottawa/14:00UTC/16:00Europe
2023-09-05/2023-09-06
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Tentatively canceled
2023-09-12/2023-09-13
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Tentatively canceled
2023-09-19/2023-09-20
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Pacific: 16:00MSP/23:00Europe/17:00Ottawa/21:00UTC/07:00Sydney
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Atlantic: 09:00MSP/10:00Ottawa/14:00UTC/16:00Europe
2023-09-26/2023-09-27/2023-09-28/2023-09-29
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Face to face meeting in Dublin
2023-10-03/2023-10-04
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Tentatively canceled
2023-10-10/2023-10-11
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Pacific: 16:00MSP/23:00Europe/17:00Ottawa/21:00UTC/ 08:00Sydney
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Atlantic: 09:00MSP/10:00Ottawa/14:00UTC/16:00Europe
2023-10-17/2023-10-18
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Pacific: 16:00MSP/23:00Europe/17:00Ottawa/21:00UTC/08:00Sydney
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Atlantic: 09:00MSP/10:00Ottawa/14:00UTC/16:00Europe
2023-10-24/2023-10-25
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Pacific: 16:00MSP/23:00Europe/17:00Ottawa/21:00UTC/08:00Sydney
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Atlantic: 09:00MSP/10:00Ottawa/14:00UTC/16:00Europe
2023-10-31/2023-11-01
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Pacific: 16:00MSP/ 22:00Europe /17:00Ottawa/21:00UTC/08:00Sydney
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Atlantic:
10:00MSP / 11:00Ottawa / 15:00UTC /16:00Europe
TC calendar
http://www.oasis-open.org/committees/calendar.php?wg_abbrev=ubl
iCal subscription link:
http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup_feeds/ical/my_vcalendar.ics?token=fa658a7994a6cefb10c10be09e139af3&workgroup_id=50
Other business
None
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