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[PATCH RFC] VIRTIO_F_PARTIAL_ORDER for page fault handling
On Tue, 11 Aug 2020 15:43:44 +0000
Lars Ganrot <[email protected]> wrote:
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>
From: [email protected] <[email protected]
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> open.org> On Behalf Of Lars Ganrot
>
> Sent: 11. august 2020 16:54
> >
> >
>
From: [email protected]
> > > <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Michael S. Tsirkin
> >
> Sent: 11. august 2020 10:23
> > >
> >
> On Mon, Aug 10, 2020 at 06:59:28PM +0200, Cornelia Huck wrote:
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> On Mon, 10 Aug 2020 12:15:15 -0400
> > > > "Michael S. Tsirkin" <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > >
> > > >
> Devices that normally use buffers in order can benefit from
> > > >
> ability to temporarily switch to handle some buffers out of order.
> > > > >
> > > >
> As a case in point, a networking device might handle RX buffers in
> > > >
> order normally. However, should an access to an RX buffer cause a
> > > >
> page fault (e.g. when using PRI), the device could benefit from
> > > >
> ability to temporarily keep using following buffers in the ring
> > > > > (possibly with higher overhead) until the fault has been resolved.
> > > > >
> > > >
> Page faults allow more features such as THP, auto-NUMA, live
> > > >
> migration.
> > > > >
> > > >
> Out of order is of course already possible, however, IN_ORDER is
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> currently required for descriptor batching where device marks a
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> whole batch of buffers used in one go.
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> > > >
> The idea behind this proposal is to relax that requirement,
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> allowing batching without asking device to be in orde rat all
> > > >
> times, as
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> follows:
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> > > >
> Device uses buffers in any order. Eventually when device detects
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> that it has used all previously outstanding buffers, it sets a
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> FLUSH flag on the last buffer used. If it set this flag on the
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> last buffer used previously, and now uses a batch of descriptors
> > > >
> in-order, it can now signal the last buffer used again setting the FLUSH
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> flag.
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> > > >
> Driver can detect in-order when it sees two FLUSH flags one after
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> another. In other respects the feature is similar to IN_ORDER from
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> the driver implementation POV.
> > > > >
> > > >
> Signed-off-by: Michael S. Tsirkin <[email protected]>
> > > > > ---
> > > >
> content.tex
| 9 ++++++++-
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> packed-ring.tex | 23 +++++++++++++++++++++++ split-ring.tex |
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> 26
> > > > > ++++++++++++++++++++++++--
> > > >
> 3 files changed, 55 insertions(+), 3 deletions(-)
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> > > >
> diff --git a/content.tex b/content.tex index 91735e3..8494eb6
> > > >
> 100644
> > > > > --- a/content.tex
> > > > > +++ b/content.tex
> > > > > @@ -296,7 +296,11 @@ \section{Virtqueues}\label{sec:Basic
> > > >
> Facilities of a Virtio Device / Virtqueues}
> > > > >
> > > >
> Some devices always use descriptors in the same order in which
> > > >
> they have been made available. These devices can offer the
> > > > > -VIRTIO_F_IN_ORDER feature. If negotiated, this knowledge
> > > > > +VIRTIO_F_IN_ORDER feature. Other devices sometimes use
> > > > > +descriptors in the same order in which they have been made
> > > > > +available. These devices can offer the VIRTIO_F_PARTIAL_ORDER
> > > > > +feature. If one of the features VIRTIO_F_IN_ORDER or
> > > > > +VIRTIO_F_PARTIAL_ORDER is
> >
> negotiated,
> > > > > +this knowledge
> > > >
> > >
> Do these two features conflict with each other? I.e., at most one of
> > >
> them may be negotiated (or offered?) at a time?
> > >
> >
> Good point. I think so, yes. Will document.
> >
>
> Isn't it more natural to think of VIRTIO_F_IN_ORDER as the simple case which
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> always maintains ordered access, while the new feature flag allows active
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> control of when descriptors are ordered and when not? To make it backward
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> compatible let VIRTIO_F_IN_ORDER imply the new bit is set, while the new bit
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> set by itself without VIRTIO_F_IN_ORDER set means only active control is
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> offered. I guess a name like VIRTIO_F_CTRL_ORDER would be more
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> appropriate with this interpretation.
> >
>
> On second thought that might be a bit backwards - how about:
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> Legacy case: VIRTIO_F_IN_ORDER==0/1 + VIRTIO_F_ORDER_RELAX==0
> This proposal: VIRTIO_F_IN_ORDER==1 + VIRTIO_F_ORDER_RELAX==1
> Potential future use: VIRTIO_F_???_ORDER==1 + VIRTIO_F_ORDER_RELAX==0/1
What happens in the new device/old driver case?
- device offers IN_ORDER and PARTIAL_ORDER
- driver does not know PARTIAL_ORDER, accepts IN_ORDER
- device now only can do complete ordering
Maybe I don't understand the purpose of the new feature correctly, but
I thought it was for those devices that don't do full in-order, but can
do it for a subset of buffers? As such, the two features can't really
imply each other: a device offering IN_ORDER might not know about the
new feature and its mechanism, and a device offering the new feature,
but not IN_ORDER probably does so because it cannot support full
IN_ORDER.
I think it makes the most sense if the device can offer both flags, but
the driver must only accept at most one of them?
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