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Subject: Prelim minutes of 3/20 teleconf


prelim minutes attached.

Provide corrections before next monday.

Tom

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Title: Minutes WSRM TC Conference Call �3/20/07

Preliminary Minutes WSRM TC Conference Call � Mar 20, 2007

 

5:30 � 6:30 PM EDT.

 

Textual Conventions

 

�  Action Item

Motion

�    Resolution

1          Draft Agenda:

Agenda ����������

1.      review agenda

2.      Roll Call

3.      Minutes approval

4.      Action Items

5.      Review Draft Deployment Template Document

5        Review Draft Application Notes for Intelligent appliances

6        Discussion mechanics of committee future

7        New Business

 

Agenda approved

2          Roll Call

Attendance: 

First Name

Last Name

Role

Company

Jacques

Durand

Secretary

Fujitsu Limited*

Kazunori

Iwasa

Voting Member

Fujitsu Limited*

Tom

Rutt

Chair

Fujitsu Limited*

Eisaku

Nishiyama

Voting Member

Hitachi, Ltd.*

Nobuyuki

Yamamoto

Voting Member

Hitachi, Ltd.*

Robert

Freund

Voting Member

Hitachi, Ltd.*

Paul

Knight

Voting Member

Nortel Networks Limited*

jeff

mischkinsky

Member

Oracle Corporation*

Pete

Wenzel

Voting Member

Sun Microsystems

 

Meeting is quorate

 

3          Minutes Discussion

 

Tom Rutt volunteered to take minutes.

 

3.1       Approval of previous meeting minutes

 

The minutes of the March 6 teleconference meeting are posted at: http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/wsrm/download.php/22926/MinutesWsrmTC-030607.htm

 

Jacques� moved to approve the March 6� minutes, Bob seconded.

 

No opposition March 6 minutes are approved

 

4          Status of Action Items

Action 1: Jacques will post CD for application notes on web site.

Jacques will post on our site and to arrange for OASIS staff to post at correct url..

 

Action 2 on Tom is update public site to ensure it has up to date links.

5          Discussion on Draft Deployment Profile Template Document

Posted by Jacques:

http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/wsrm/download.php/22783/wsrm-ApplicationNotes-cd.doc

 

Jacques: I applied what was done in ebxml TC, to help users of standard to profile their use of these standards.

  • The way we built the template was to go thru the spec, and to take any Option or Should in the spec and take that as a candidate to ask a question in the template.
  • Users may also want to customize the contents of a field (e.g, extensions) related to their own business.� Group ID format restrictions is one example.
  • Third aspect is related to logistics for deploying the profile.� This is reflected in the last sections of the proposed document. �operational aspects of Profile� section 5.

 

Section 4 is detailed aspects for the profile, which might affect interoperability at application level.

 

Jacques: It was not hard to produce, since I just went for the Options in our spec, using a template structure from other TCs.

 

Tom: I would find it useful.

 

Tom: would people be willing to vote on this document in two weeks time.

 

Bob: we would like time to review.

 

Comments should be posted by Tuesday of Next week.

 

Put on� agenda for CD vote for meeting in two weeks.

 

 

6          Discussion of Application Notes for Information Appliances

Draft Application Notes From Iwasa posted as: http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/wsrm/download.php/22959/WS-ReliabilityProfileforInformationAppliancesEnglish1.0.pdf

 

A Profile of Reliable Web Services Messaging for Information Appliances Services

[WS-Reliability]

 

Iwasa translated the document to English.� It is not using the new template.� I could upload a new profile using this template.� I could do that before next Tuesday.

 

Bob: What is the Document�s Intap approval process.� What is forcast of Intap process for this document.

 

Iwasa: It is in the approval process.� The Japanese profile will be approved.� It was discussed to submit the document to this TC.�

 

Bob: The document has not yet been approved by INTAP.� There could be changes as it goes thru the INTAP discussion process.

 

Iwasa: there is some leeway to change the document.� However there are no anticipate changes.�

 

Bob: Could you check the formal status of this document in INTAP.

 

Bob: there are sections in the draft which are incomplete, section 4.1 group termination last page.� Something seems to be missing.

 

Tom: the status within INTAP needs to be clarified.

 

Iwasa: the SIG agrees the content, and will submit for public review.

 

Bob: so the public review process has not yet started.

 

Tom: we cannot change the web site after april 15.� So if we don have a definitive reference form INTAP by that date, we cannot update the site after that date.

 

Tom: when could public review within INTAP be done.

 

Iwasa: one or two months.

 

Tom: We agreed before it would be best to be given a stable url to Intap.

 

Pete: they have given such a stable URL.

 

Iwasa: I have sent out the URL for intap web site.

Document Description:

This document is to recommend how WS-Reliability should be implemented or

used for Information Appliances.

You will be able to download the approved version at the following link: http://net2.intap.or.jp/SPIA/sig3_hrwsm.htm *Currently it is not yet posted there.

 

Tom: could we get a statement from INTAP by the next meeting on a stable URL.

 

Tom: how do we get a version conforming to template by middle of april.

 

Iwasa: I could produce a profile document conforming to template with us voting to CD

 

Pete : That would be a derivative work to reformat and translate to English.

 

Jacques: the TC could vote that the profile conforms to the template.� Could we agree to approve as an instance of these templates.

 

Pete: that is fine if we have permission to publish derivative work, with all IPR and copyright issues.� That is why we decided it better to refer by reference.

 

Iwasa: Intap would be able to change copyright.

 

Pete: we would need clear copyright and ipr transfer.

 

Tom: how can this TC decide if the question answers are correct for their field of application.

 

Jacques: we could certify that the profile is a proper instance of the template.� We could give it exemplar value.� However its endorsement would have to be limited to the usage of template not contents.

 

Reference preferred, anything else would require more discussion

7          Discussion of Committee Future

 

Propose next meeting in two weeks: April 3

 

On agenda will be a vote for CD on template.

 

Also continue Discussion of the Intelligent appliance profile.

 

Bob: pursue ruling on contribute document from INTAP to Jamie.� Needs to be communication from INTAP.

 

Tom: how could we get copyright transfer to OASIS by next week.

 

Jacques: I can coordinate with IWASA and the OASIS staff.

 

Paul K : there is a statement on March 15 document.

 

Bob: that statement is outside my purview.

 

Pete: that statement could come from the INTAP staff.

 

Jacques: but Fujitsu is a copyright owner.

 

Tom: Jacques should work this out with the staff at OASIS.

1          New Business

Every member should be a public web site reviewer.� Mail editorial issues to list.� The public site will be all that is available after April 15.

Members should send email from now until next meeting.��� We will discuss proposed changes to the public site at next meeting.

 



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