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[xacml] XACML September 12, 2002 Minutes


Title: XACML Conference Call Minutes XACML Conference Call Date: Thursday, September 12, 2002 Time: 10:00 AM EDT Tel: 512-225-3050 Access Code: 65998 Summary Since we had quorum, we voted to approve the batch of change requests that had previously been discussed. A new item, #40 was also added that generated a lot of discussion and still needs resolution. Carlisle proposed adding a one hour focus group after the TC call to help facilitate completing the specification. Based on discussion, 9/26 deadline may be extended because some feel we need at least two weeks to digest the completed spec before voting on it and there is still a lot of discussion regarding a couple issues. Action Items [Anne] Update Change Request List [Michiharu] Complete XPATH specification once base model of functions complete [TC] Vote on new wording of charter proposed by Hal. http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/xacml/200208/msg00133.html [Anne, mid-Sept 2002] Get comments to Tim on profile for using LDAP to store policies. [Anne, mid-Sept 2002] Update XML Digital Signature profile. [Anne, mid-Sept 2002] Send proposal for SAML changes based on our Context to XACML TC list. After TC review and modification, we will send it on to SAML. Deadline for this is SAML's deadline for finalizing their list for 2.0. [Tim] Separate SAML document to be created in Sept (Lower Priority) [Hal/Konstantin] XACML primer needs to be completed in Sept (Lower Priority) [Polar/Michiharu] Request that Polar or Michiharu post summary of views on #40 after discussion. [Simon] Post updated Schema [Polar] Post functions spec by Friday Votes Approved minutes of 10/5 TC Call Approved as batch list, all items in Change Request list marked NQ Proposed Agenda: 10:00-10:05 Roll Call and Agenda Review 10:05-10:10 Vote to accept minutes of September 5 concall http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/xacml/200209/msg00026.html 10:10-10:15 Review of Action Items (see 9/5 minutes) 10:15-10:20 Vote on v0.16 technical change requests that have been discussed 10:20-10:55 Discussion of remaining v0.16 technical change requests (all) 10:55-11:00 Discussion of schedule for Committee Spec (Carlisle) Roll Call Ken Yagen , Crosslogix Carlisle Adams, Entrust Tim Moses, Entrust Don Flinn, Hitachi Konstantin Beznosov, Hitachi Michiharu Kudoh, IBM Steve Andersen, OpenNetwork Simon Godik, Overxeer Bill Parducci, Overxeer Polar Humenn, Self Suresh Damodaran, Sterling Commerce Raw Minutes (taken by Ken Yagen ) 10:08 Agenda additions/changes 10:09 Motion to approve minutes from 10/5 passed 10:10 Action Item Review Michiharu to post XPATH function specifications by Monday Still working to understand base model. If have agreed to data model for functions, can submit the specification quickly. Outline of contents for primer due Sent out today by Konstantin. Will review at end if time. http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/xacml/200209/msg00079.html Anne's action items due in mid September. As of last week had not been completed as an was working on conformance tests Tim to create separate SAML document. Not begun yet. 10:15 Change Request vote based on Anne's 9/9 change request email http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/xacml/200209/msg00058.html Ones that state QUORUM are already approved Proposal is to accept as batch all items that say NQ by them Motion to vote passed Simon would like to remove 38 from the list Remaining items 0008. [Anne] list mandatory vs. non-mandatory functions STATUS: POSTPONED (Anne to resubmit with current list) 0017. [ Carlisle] 10. "Resource Matching": NotApplicable treated as Permit STATUS: POSTPONED 9/9 (Anne to draft "open world/closed world" text) 0019. [ Carlisle] C. consistent error behavior STATUS: POSTPONED 9/9 (Polar to review and recommend action) 0023. [Daniel, Polar] function names, types, semantics STATUS: POSTPONED 9/9 (Anne to review XPath 2.0 specifications) UPDATE: Polar: Estimate document complete by Friday. It is English text describing what will happen and pointers to other sources. It will be a whole section (8-9 pages), not just a table 0026. [Michiharu] Add XPath functions as non-mandatory STATUS: POSTPONED 9/9 (Michiharu will update and resubmit) UPDATE : I want to postpone this change request update until we reach an agreement on a function model. 0031. [Michiharu] Type of XPathVersion element from string=>anyURI STATUS: POSTPONED 9/9 (Michiharu to reconsider and resubmit) UPDATE : REMOVED I would like to change my original change request and propose a change request [0039]. If [0039] is accepted, [0031] disappears. Then Simon's concern is solved. 31 will be removed and new issue 39 will be added as detailed in 9/12 email from Michiharu 0032. [Michiharu] Schema change of AttributeSelector STATUS: POSTPONED 9/9 (Michiharu to revise and resubmit) Update: Updated Change Request posted 9/12 0035. [Michiharu] AttributeSelectorIndirect STATUS: POSTPONED 9/9 (Michiharu will restate and resubmit) 0038. [Simon] Extending XACML semantics with subject-class STATUS: POSTPONED 9/9 (Simon to submit use case where *required*) UPDATE: REMOVED Discussion of new issue 39 [0039] Proposal: I request to remove "XPathVersion" attribute from AttributeSelector element. This change removes the reason is that we already allow a default value of XPathVersion in Policy and PolicySet elements. Since the minimum unit of the policy rules are Policy element, I think it is sufficient to specify XPath version information at a policy level, not at each AttributeSelector level. Policy writer who uses AttributeSelector must specify the xpath version in PolicyDefaults or PolicySetDefaults element. The value of XPath 1.0 version is " http://www.w3.org/TR/1999/Rec-xpath-19991116 ". New issue #40: Semantics of sequences proposed by Simon/Michiharu There is a proposal by Michiharu and a lot of discussion around this issue. http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/xacml/200209/msg00071.html Discussion of list processing functions, ordering of sequences, etc. Some discussion to add 1 hour focus group call following TC calls on Thursdays Will we reach committee spec in 2 weeks per schedule. Tim feels we need final document in hand for at least 2 weeks to let things sink in. Request that Polar or Michiharu post summary of views after discussion.

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