Re: [dita-fa-edboard] DITA bloggers

[Bob Doyle <bobdoyle@skybuilders.com>]

Hi Scott,

ditamap.com is serving and the RSS feed from your DITA XML alerts parses 
with no problems. Nice work. Thanks.

I added your DITA XML feed to my demo of DITA News on my CMS News 
aggregator.
See http://www.cms-news.org/?q=node/6

I created the News Page for DITA News. For now posts must include DITA 
or XML keywords to be included.  I have not found anything about Boolean 
criteria.

At the moment, only the two XDocs posts are showing up.

See http://dita-staging.xml.org/newsfeeds

This is a great response to Don Day's suggestion to leverage Google Alerts.

Google Alerts often produce duplicates on press releases. Is eliminating 
duplicates something easy for PERL scripting? Or should we leave them 
all in to show the breadth of coverage?   Just a thought.

Cheers,

Bob.

Scott Prentice wrote:
> Hi Bob...
>
> I've made an initial pass at setting up this GoogleAlerts-to-RSS 
> processor. See ..
>
>    http://www.ditamap.com/news.php
>
> There have only been a couple "DITA XML" alerts since I set this up .. 
> as more arrive they will get added to the page as well as the RSS 
> feed. Let me know if this is inline with what you were thinking of. I 
> was planning to store the last 30 days worth of news.
>
> ...scott
>
> ps. If you try to reply and get a bounce .. try again in a day or so. 
> My domain expired unexpectedly and the DNS may need to finish 
> percolating before it's available to all.
>
>
>
> Bob Doyle wrote:
>> Hi Scott,
>>
>> This sounds like a terrific idea.
>>
>> I very much like the concept of different websites (and background 
>> toolsets/CMS, etc.) contributing shared information via select web 
>> services feeds between systems. I do this with my CMS Glossary 
>> syndicated to a dozen CM community websites.
>>
>> So if others approve the idea, I would like you to prototype the feed 
>> and we can test it out.
>>
>> I assume we could make more than one Google Alert (different 
>> keywords) and then send them all to the one new email address which 
>> your script would parse and turn around as an RSS feed to the 
>> DITA.xml.org and OpenDocument.xml.org aggregators.
>>
>> If we don't get a thumbs down from someone, please go ahead and send 
>> me the feed URL when ready at ditamap.com..
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> Bob.
>>
>> Scott Prentice wrote:
>>> Hi Bob...
>>>
>>> Regarding the integration of Google Alerts .. it is possible to set 
>>> up an email address where the incoming content is passed to a Perl 
>>> (or other) script, which then generates an RSS feed. If this isn't 
>>> something that can easily be done on the OASIS server, I'd be glad 
>>> to set this up on ditamap.com and you could grab the RSS feed from 
>>> there.
>>>
>>> ...scott
>>>
>>>
>>> Bob Doyle wrote:
>>>> Hi Don,
>>>>
>>>> Filtering on keywords is not yet in place for OpenDocument or DITA 
>>>> (News or Blogs) on the dita-staging.xml.org server.
>>>>
>>>> The page you saw is just the raw data.
>>>> http://dita-staging.xml.org/aggregator/categories/4
>>>>
>>>> For filtering we need Seth to install the Drupal New Page module.
>>>>
>>>> I did a proof of concept demo of DITA XML filtering on my CMS News 
>>>> site.
>>>> http://www.cms-news.org/?q=node/6
>>>>
>>>> It does catch my XML CMS column last week (thanks for your plug 
>>>> below).
>>>>
>>>> I will get filtering running on DITA.xml.org as soon as I hear from 
>>>> Carol or Seth that the New Page module is installed.
>>>>
>>>> I wish I knew how to integrate Google alerts! I use them for my 
>>>> various brands.  As far as I know Alerts only come as emails. We 
>>>> would need an RSS feed.
>>>>
>>>> A hack would be for one (or more) of us to set up specific Google 
>>>> alerts and then faithfully post a link to one of our aggregated blogs.
>>>>
>>>> Any other ideas?
>>>>
>>>> Cheers,
>>>>
>>>> Bob.
>>>>
>>>> Don Day wrote:
>>>>> Bob, I would like to see the news aggregator catch highly relevant 
>>>>> items
>>>>> such as this:
>>>>> http://www.econtentmag.com/Articles/ArticleReader.aspx?ArticleID=18107 
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I got this on a Google Alerts simple case of  "xml dita", which 
>>>>> has turned
>>>>> out to catch most new announcements and articles effectively enough.
>>>>>
>>>>> I have been browsing your sample page and cannot see the DITA 
>>>>> connection on
>>>>> what I've seen so far.
>>>>>
>>>>> Regards,
>>>>> -- 
>>>>> Don Day
>>>>> Chair, OASIS DITA Technical Committee
>>>>> IBM Lead DITA Architect
>>>>> Email: dond@us.ibm.com
>>>>> 11501 Burnet Rd. MS9033E015, Austin TX 78758
>>>>> Phone: +1 512-838-8550
>>>>> T/L: 678-8550
>>>>>
>>>>> "Where is the wisdom we have lost in knowledge?
>>>>>  Where is the knowledge we have lost in information?"
>>>>>    --T.S. Eliot
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>                                                                            
>>>>>              Bob 
>>>>> Doyle                                                     
>>>>>              
>>>>> <bobdoyle@skybuil                                             
>>>>>              
>>>>> ders.com>                                                  To 
>>>>>                                        Carol 
>>>>> Geyer                                      09/11/2006 
>>>>> 11:35          <carol.geyer@oasis-open.org>                     
>>>>> AM                                                         cc 
>>>>>                                        
>>>>> dita-fa-edboard@lists.xml.org       
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>>>>> Subject                                        Re: 
>>>>> [dita-fa-edboard] DITA bloggers 
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>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi Carol and All,
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks for having me on the DITA.xml.org Editorial Board.
>>>>>
>>>>> A first rough draft of the DITA News aggregator is available at:
>>>>> http://dita-staging.xml.org/aggregator/categories/4
>>>>>
>>>>> We need to set up a "cron" to pull feeds on a regular schedule 
>>>>> (every 12
>>>>> hours?) and then the posts will interleave themselves by time.  
>>>>> The page
>>>>> now shows news feeds in the order I manually added them (last in - 
>>>>> first
>>>>> out so eWeek is at the top).
>>>>>
>>>>> We will be filtering the feeds on DITA-related keywords, so we 
>>>>> need your
>>>>> suggestions for important terms.
>>>>>
>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>
>>>>> Bob.
>>>>>
>>>>> Carol Geyer wrote:
>>>>>  
>>>>>> DITA XML.org Editorial Board,
>>>>>> I am very pleased to announce that Bob Doyle, an OASIS member 
>>>>>> many of you
>>>>>>     
>>>>> know
>>>>>  
>>>>>> well, has joined the DITA XML.org Editorial Board. Bob's 
>>>>>> credentials are
>>>>>>     
>>>>> far
>>>>>  
>>>>>> too extensive for me to even try to summarize in an email. His 
>>>>>> web site,
>>>>>> skybuilders.com, only represents a fraction of what he does now.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Bob organizes the DITA Users Group in Boston and has been working 
>>>>>> with
>>>>>>     
>>>>> Seth and
>>>>>  
>>>>>> me to extend the news and blog aggregator functionality on 
>>>>>> dita.xml.org.
>>>>>>     
>>>>> Bob is
>>>>>  
>>>>>> experimenting with a new Drupal module that will automatically 
>>>>>> search
>>>>>>     
>>>>> selected
>>>>>  
>>>>>> RSS feeds for our keywords (e.g., DITA) and post appropriate 
>>>>>> headline
>>>>>>     
>>>>> links on
>>>>>  
>>>>>> our news and our blogs pages.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If you are aware of anyone who blogs occasionally (and 
>>>>>> intelligently)
>>>>>>     
>>>>> about
>>>>>  
>>>>>> DITA on a site other than dita.xml.org--and whose blog is 
>>>>>> available via
>>>>>> RSS--please let Bob know.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> As for news sources, we've started off with these:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> IBM developerworks
>>>>>> http://www-128.ibm.com/developerworks/views/rss/customfeed.jsp
>>>>>> Infoworld (standards) http://www.infoworld.com/rss/standards.xml
>>>>>> Infoworld (top news) http://www.infoworld.com/rss/news.xml
>>>>>> eWeek http://feeds.ziffdavis.com/ziffdavis/eweek/developer
>>>>>> CNET http://news.com.com/2547-1_3-0-20.xml
>>>>>> Internet news
>>>>>> http://www.internetnews.com/icom_includes/feeds/inews/wr-dev-news-10.xml 
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Government Computer News (policy)
>>>>>> http://www.gcn.com/technology-policy/index.xml
>>>>>> Government Computer News (top stories) http://www.gcn.com/index.xml
>>>>>> Zdnet Asia http://www.zdnetasia.com/rss/latest_news.htm?n=10
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If you have any others we should add, please let Bob know.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>> Carol
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> _________________________________
>>>>>> Carol Geyer
>>>>>> Director of Communications
>>>>>> OASIS
>>>>>> +1.978.667.5115 x209
>>>>>>
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>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> -- 
>>>>> Bob Doyle
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>>>>>
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>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -- 
>>>> Bob Doyle
>>>> Editor In Chief, CMS Review - http://www.cmsreview.com
>>>> Technology Adviser, CM Pros - http://www.cmprofessionals.org
>>>> Contributing Editor, EContent Magazine - 
>>>> http://www.econtentmag.com/About/AboutAuthor.aspx?AuthorID=155
>>>> President and CEO, skyBuilders - http://www.skybuilders.com
>>>> 77 Huron Avenue
>>>> Cambridge, MA 02138
>>>> Tel: +1 617-876-5676   Skype:bobdoyle
>>>>
>>>>   
>>
>>


-- 
Bob Doyle
Editor In Chief, CMS Review - http://www.cmsreview.com
Technology Adviser, CM Pros - http://www.cmprofessionals.org
Contributing Editor, EContent Magazine - 
http://www.econtentmag.com/About/AboutAuthor.aspx?AuthorID=155
President and CEO, skyBuilders - http://www.skybuilders.com
77 Huron Avenue
Cambridge, MA 02138
Tel: +1 617-876-5676   Skype:bobdoyle