Re: [dita-fa-edboard] Progress on spam prevention

On 9/28/07, Carol Geyer <carol.geyer@oasis-open.org> wrote:

Bob,
Believe it or not, Polly Poon is actually an employee of Elkera, an Australian
content management company that uses DITA. She hasn't posted yet, but we have
no reason to assume she's a spammer. (Who knows what kind of rude meanings
names like "Geyer" or "Doyle" have Down Under?)

Seriously, I don't think there's any need for pre-emptive blocking of users. If
the spam module works like it's supposed to, lurking spammers will be caught
when they post.

There were indeed hundreds of johnrookie posts--exactly the kind of thing the
spam module (theoretically) will block.

--carol

-----Original Message-----
From: Bob Doyle [mailto: bobdoyle@skybuilders.com]
Sent: Friday, September 28, 2007 11:17 AM
To: Carol Geyer
Cc: DITA Editorial Board; Neil Joseph Schelly; greg.rundlett@oasis-open.org
Subject: Re: [dita-fa-edboard] Progress on spam prevention

Hi Carol,

Thanks for a fine - and heroic - piece of work.

I checked and see that johnrookie's voluminous comments spam is gone. Were
there hundreds as Su-Laine suspected?

This spam module looks very well designed.

Will you be manually blocking spammers already registered just lurking to hit
us some day, like Polly Poon?

And I am relieved to hear there was a no-follow on comments - though I do not
understand how this could work for porn inserted at the bottom of my Boston DUG
page, which I know Google spiders?

Cheers,

Bob.

On 9/28/07, Carol Geyer < carol.geyer@oasis-open.org> wrote:

        Quick progress report:

        1. I believe I have deleted all the spam on the site and blocked the
offenders.
        If you catch any, please let me know.

        2. Neil is installing the spam module as we speak. It:

        * automatically unpublishes posts containing too many URIs. (We've set
this for
        6, but can change it.)

        * automatically unpublishes posts containing too many of the same URI.
(We've
        set this for 3, but can change it.)

        * automatically unpublishes duplicate content (the same content posted
more
        than twice to the site).

        * automatically blocks users who post two instances of identified spam.

        * allows users to mark content as spam (through a link at the bottom of
the
        page).

        * notifies users when their content has been identified as spam (so
they can
        appeal if there's a mistake).

        * notifies site admins of identified spam and provides an easy
interface for
        restoring. Content identified as spam that isn't restored within two
weeks is
        automatically deleted.

        3. Regarding Bob's concern about search engines, Greg and Neil don't
believe
        that's happening.

        All comment links have the 'rel=nofollow' attribute added.  This means
that the
        search engines
        (including Google, MSN, Yahoo!) do not follow those links and spammers
get no
        benefit from abusing our public commons.
         http://googleblog.blogspot.com/2005/01/preventing-comment-spam.html
This
        feature is incorporated into the core of the Drupal system.

        --carol

        -----Original Message-----
        From: Carol Geyer [mailto:carol.geyer@oasis-open.org ]
        Sent: Friday, September 28, 2007 8:44 AM
        To: 'DITA Editorial Board'
        Subject: RE: [dita-fa-edboard] Is nothing to be done about spam?

        I am just returning from vacation. In my absence, Neil installed the
spam
        module on a test site. I am evaluating it now. As soon as I'm through,
Neil
        will install it on the live site. I'll let you all know how it works,
and we
        can evaluate its effectiveness and determine if other measures are
necessary.

        --c

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