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   Re: Position Statement on FPIs sought

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  • From: "Martin Bryan" <mtbryan@sgml.u-net.com>
  • To: <Charles@SGMLsource.com>
  • Date: Thu, 4 Dec 1997 20:54:36 -0000


For the record, David Durand has pointed out this week that:

ISO 9070 is very clear on the subject, and I quote:
"3.10 Owner name: the portion of a public identifier that names its owner.
.... 13 The owner of a public identifier is not necessarily the owner of
the object it identifies"
and from the introduction:
"... and an 'owner name', which identifies the originator of the public

ISO 8879 defines owner identifier as:
"The portion of a public identifier that identifies the owner or orignator
of public text"
and defines public text as:
"The text that is known beyond the context of a single document..."

There would seem to be a conflict here. 8879's two rules can be conflated to
read "_identifies the owner of the text_ that is known beyond the context of
a single document" whereas 9070's definitions can be conflated to read "the
portion of a public identifier that _names the owner of a public
identifier_, who is not necessarily the owner of the object it identifies".

These definitions seem to be contradictory.

Additionally David has said:

"IDN is not in 9070 rev 2, and thus is not suitable _de jure_; it is also
unsuitable _de facto_, since domain names can be reused by different
organizations. Unless Internet policies and 9070 have both changed, I think
this is also wrong."

"and 9070 is more recent, normatively cited by 8879, and edited by the same
editor; so I am inclined to prefer the 9070 reading."

We need to review the relationship between these two standards.


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