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- From: Peter Murray-Rust <email@example.com>
- To: John Cowan <firstname.lastname@example.org>,email@example.com
- Date: Thu, 02 Jul 1998 09:46:39
At 22:11 30/06/98 -2800, John Cowan wrote:
>james anderson scripsit:
>> as you've said, i'm repeating myself too much, and without effect.
>> i'll shut up about this 'till i figure out how to make it clear.
>You *are* clear. However, you want the namespace-aware parser to
>do something that namespace-aware parsers aren't contracted to do:
>decide what is, and what is not, an "ultimate" reference to a
>universal-name, and translate all such. The authors of the namespace
>draft are a proper subject of this complaint.
I sympathise with those trying to define how namespaces are used under
XSchema and elsewhere. Any XML-SIG discussions are confidential, and I
don't have a timescale for the next draft release. However I think it can
be reasonably said:
- there are many different views on what namespaces are and how valuable
- the current approach is deliberately minimalist
The WhiteKnight question is always with is:
- what is a namespace?
- what is a namespace called?
- what is the name of the namespace?
- what is the name of the namespace called?
This calls for great precision and agreement which I suspect we do not yet
have. (It also arises in the PubID vs SysID question).
I suspect there are two strategies:
- accept it as a very difficult problem and not attempt to solve it. The
community (market) will then come up with approaches which may or may not
find ecological niches
- accept it as a very difficult problem and propose a solution. Some of
the community will accept this and some won't.
I would suggest that we only address the mechanism whereby prefix is linked
to ns. And that in a minimalist manner (i.e. providing Names for these
beasties). *What* ns should refer to is beyond XML-DEV at present (though
it may be a very appropriate forum in the future).
FWIW I will adopt a very simple strategy for JUMBO. I will not use ns to do
other than to give me a unique string, thus:
<?xml:namespace ns="xml-cml.org" prefix="CML" ?>
The ns value is unique within the galaxy. I then resolve it with a
<?JUMBO ns="xml-cml.org" java="jumbo.cml"?>
This will *implicitly* link any CML element to a class:
<CML:MOL> links to jumbo.cml.MOLNode
(JUMBO will have the convention that <FOO> links to FOONode). These classes
will be stored under the classpath (using the tools that you have all
helpfully told me about recently).
I will also store the CML XSchema in the same area. Whether XSchema need to
give me a handle for this I don't know (I shan't use 'src'). *** This
brings up the question of what the XSchema file is called ***. Do we name
it after the 'root' element? Thus:
- what is the XSchema for CML called (a) if there is a <!ELEMENT CML ...>
(b) if there isn't?
- what mechanism might there be for locating the XSchema file?
Peter Murray-Rust, Director Virtual School of Molecular Sciences, domestic
VSMS http://www.nottingham.ac.uk/vsms, Virtual Hyperglossary
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