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- From: <david@megginson.com>
- To: "XML Developers' List" <xml-dev@ic.ac.uk>
- Date: Mon, 26 Oct 1998 11:47:32 -0500 (EST)
Dave Winer writes:
> I consider it a flaw of XML that it has two ways to do hierarchy,
> one much more powerful than the other. In working with other
> companies about formats you can get into endless meaningless
> debates about whether it's better to use attributes or just stick
> with <tag> structures. When I design XML forms for our own internal
> applications, I have generally found that if I use attributes, I
> end up regretting it and switch over to straight tag hierarchy. You
> always have the option of adding a structure where a scalar used to
> be when you go that way. With attributes, you're at the end of the
> road, no way to have structure, so I agree with John Cowan
> entirely, you never know what's coming down the road, so it's
> better to leave some room on either side. Dave
There was a long-running debate in the old SGML world about whether
attributes should be allowed at all. Personally, I like them --
although Len's point about my data being someone else's metadata is
well-received, I still want to have the choice to use
<section id="foo">
...
</section>
or
<note security="confidential">Remember to close the panel.</note>
or
<link href="http://www.megginson.com">Megginson Technologies</link>
rather than
<section>
<id>foo</id>
...
</section>
or
<note>
<security>confidential</security>
<text>Remember to close the panel.</text>
</note>
or
<link>
<href>http://www.megginson.com</href>
<label>Megginson Technologies</label>
</link>
There are, of course, many cases where the latter examples are
preferable.
I agree with all of the posters that in general using elements rather
than attributes is a good design principle, but I do think that there
are useful data/meta-data distinctions to be made, even if they are
extremely fuzzy.
One of the reasons data people jump to attributes is the fact that
<account number="345"
type="asset"
name="Accounts Receivable"
currency="usd"
status="current"
balance="34,569.35"/>
looks an awful lot like
public interface Account
{
public abstract int getNumber ();
public abstract int getType ();
public abstract String getName ();
public abstract String getCurrency ();
public abstract boolean isCurrent ();
public abstract float getBalance ();
}
or
create table Account (
num int primary key,
type int,
name char(80),
currency int,
status bool,
balance float
);
It's not easy to start thinking differently.
All the best,
David
--
David Megginson david@megginson.com
http://www.megginson.com/
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