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   RE: Storing Lots of Fiddly Bits (was Re: What is XML for?)

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  • From: Dave Winer <dave@userland.com>
  • To: xml-dev@ic.ac.uk
  • Date: Sat, 30 Jan 1999 09:24:32 -0800

Frontier has four different ways to access XML structures:

1. A native verbset, the xml verbs.


2. An implementation of expat, supporting its own api.


3. A DOM implementation that works with either of the above.


4. XML-RPC, which can plug into Java, Python and Perl applications, with
more support on the way.



At 11:58 AM 1/30/99 -0500, you wrote:
>Paul Prescod wrote:
>> "W. Eliot Kimber" wrote:
>... I suspect that the
>> > solution requires an entirely new way of thinking about storing little
>> > fiddly bits of data that is neither relational nor object nor
>> > object-relational, but is entirely else (or at least
>> significantly enough
>> > else to be something different).
>> I think we have a definitional problem. I call anything that handles
>> "little fiddly graphs of data with links and annotations" an object
>> database. Is there someone in XML-DEV land with a better definition?
>> --
>	Object databases don't have any particular claim in this area. The current
>varieties seem more suited to work with particular languages (e.g. c++ or
>java). Oracle has announced an DOM interface in 8i, ObjectDesign  a DOM
>interface in eXcelon .. so, the only difference is how easy they are to work
>with and how fast they process specific tasks (oh ... and how much they cost
>	I doubt there is much new under the sun. Back in circa 1981 I was working
>with a LISP derived language called Grasper (written by Dan Corkill) that
>was designed to represent and manipulate directed graphs. We used this to
>write a relational database which was used to process geneological (i.e.
>tree) data. so there you have it... you can do anything with anything, it
>just depends on how much work you want to do and how fast you want it to
>Jonathan Borden
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