xml-dev - RE: Alternatives to the W3C

["Steven Livingstone, ITS, SENM" <steven.livingstone@scotent.co.uk>]

>and the cost of my competitors.  Look what's happening in W3C now, some of
>the XML proposals are there simply to counter-act some competitor's
>proposals.

Yes, but the point is thet W3C are there to cotrol this and produce a single
standard from the submissions.

>Microsoft is really alot like Ford was in the 20's.  For most
>people then a "car" was a Model T, and "you could have any color, so long
as
>it was black", as the saying goes. 

Are you suggesting having 20 different types of browser woudl be a good
thing?
I wouldn't want a single super-car (well, I can't drive so most people
wouldn't want me in it anyway), but I wouldn't mind a single browser made up
of everyones opinions and controlled by a consortium. Yes, I know the W3C
try to do this anyway, but I mean a commercial consortium to control NS and
MS (and anyone else i forgot).

cheers,
steven

Steven Livingstone
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> -----Original Message-----
> From:	Brandt Dainow [SMTP:bd@internet-etc.com]
> Sent:	20 January 2000 10:45
> To:	'XML Dev'
> Subject:	RE: Alternatives to the W3C
> 
> And of course, Microsoft will leap at the chance to open their source code
> to us all...
> 
> This just moves the problem into the politcal arena.  If I was the Chinese
> government, I'd want something in it which enabled me to track who you
> were
> and what you did.  I suppose the Dubai government would too, since you can
> get 5 years jail in Dubai for reading the CNN web site.
> 
> What level of encryption should it support?  US government restricts
> key-length, while Sweden believes it is a universal truth that ALL
> information should be available to everyone, while in the UK, the police
> assume encyrption is only ever needed if you're committing a crime.
> 
> Next, of course, if I'm Microsoft (or Netscape) I "support" the open
> source
> by pushing for features which enhance the appeal of my proprietary systems
> and the cost of my competitors.  Look what's happening in W3C now, some of
> the XML proposals are there simply to counter-act some competitor's
> proposals.
> 
> Trust to the chaotic anarchy of the net, if there's a need, someone will
> eventually fill it.  In the early days of any new technological revolution
> the field is always dominated by a few big boys who got there first.  But
> it
> never lasts.  Microsoft is really alot like Ford was in the 20's.  For
> most
> people then a "car" was a Model T, and "you could have any color, so long
> as
> it was black", as the saying goes.  20 years later and there were hundreds
> of models from dozens of manufacturers.
> 
> Give it time...
> 
> Brandt Dainow
> bd@internet-etc.com
> Internet Etc Ltd
> http://www.internet-etc.com
> 
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: owner-xml-dev@ic.ac.uk [mailto:owner-xml-dev@ic.ac.uk]On
> >Behalf Of
> >Don Park
> >Sent: Thursday, January 20, 2000 4:16 AM
> >To: 'XML Dev'
> >Subject: RE: Alternatives to the W3C
> >
> >
> >I think we will all benefit tremendously if there was just
> >one browser to support.  If AOL/Netscape exit the browser
> >'business', Microsoft could be 'asked' politely to place IE
> >into public domain.  A non-profit open source organization
> >could be setup to coordinate merging of Mozilla and IE into a
> >universal browser and beyond.
> >
> >Effects of such an event to W3C is somewhat difficult to guage
> >though.
> >
> >Best,
> >
> >Don Park    -   mailto:donpark@docuverse.com
> >Docuverse   -   http://www.docuverse.com
> >
> >
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