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- From: "Brandt Dainow" <bd@internet-etc.com>
- To: "'XML Dev'" <xml-dev@ic.ac.uk>
- Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2000 15:33:42 -0000
VGA, visual development tools, and Windows 3.0
Brandt Dainow
bd@internet-etc.com
Internet Etc Ltd
http://www.internet-etc.com
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Steven Livingstone, ITS, SENM
>[mailto:steven.livingstone@scotent.co.uk]
>Sent: Friday, January 21, 2000 2:44 PM
>To: Brandt Dainow; 'XML Dev'
>Subject: RE: Alternatives to the W3C
>
>
>So what happened to DOS GUI-like applications?
>
>Steven Livingstone
>Glasgow, Scotland.
>07771 957 280 or +447771957280
>
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>
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Brandt Dainow [SMTP:bd@internet-etc.com]
>> Sent: 21 January 2000 14:15
>> To: 'XML Dev'
>> Subject: RE: Alternatives to the W3C
>>
>> What short memories this industry has. I can remember programming
>> GUI-like
>> interfaces on MS DOS 1.0. I didn't have a mouse, of course,
>but I had
>> dialog boxes, menus, etc. It wasn't much fun manually
>drawing boxes 1
>> pixel
>> at a time, but we did it. The platform at the time was 8088
>with 256K
>> RAM.
>>
>> Don't automatically reach for the technology when a little creative
>> thinking
>> and effort can do the job instead. As my old woodwork
>teacher used to
>> say,
>> "It's a poor workman who blames his tools."
>>
>> Brandt Dainow
>> bd@internet-etc.com
>> Internet Etc Ltd
>> http://www.internet-etc.com
>>
>>
>> >In our case, the front-end clearly *is* critical - what they want
>> >(window-like in MS windows or X-Windows interfaces like they had in
>> >client-server) can only be done using the latest technologies.
>> ></quote>
>> >
>> >???
>> >
>> >cheers
>> >steven
>> >
>> >Steven Livingstone
>> >Glasgow, Scotland.
>> >07771 957 280 or +447771957280
>> >
>> >Pro XML
>> >http://www.wrox.com/Consumer/Store/Details.asp?ISBN=1861003110
>> >Professional Site Server 3, Wrox Press
>> >http://www.wrox.com/Consumer/Store/Details.asp?ISBN=1861002696
>> >Professional Site Server 3.0 Commerce Edition, Wrox Press
>> >http://www.wrox.com/Consumer/Store/Details.asp?ISBN=1861002505
>> >
>> >
>> >> -----Original Message-----
>> >> From: Ann Navarro [SMTP:ann@webgeek.com]
>> >> Sent: 20 January 2000 16:19
>> >> To: Steven Livingstone, ITS, SENM; 'XML Dev'
>> >> Subject: RE: Alternatives to the W3C
>> >>
>> >> At 04:05 PM 1/20/00 +0000, Steven Livingstone, ITS, SENM wrote:
>> >> >I think you're missing the point. Are you a content developer or
>> >> application
>> >> >developer? From your responses I'd say content (E-Commerce
>> >based sites
>> >> for
>> >> >me are in the main content based sites where you can click
>> >"buy-me" - not
>> >> >applications) where I agree your site should be built
>for multiple
>> >> browser
>> >> >types.
>> >> >
>> >> >I develop weblications. I don't develop for the latest
>> >innovations just
>> >> >because I want to be on the cutting edge. It is practical.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> No, I'm not missing the point.
>> >>
>> >> If you develop for the *convenience* of the developer,
>> >you're missing your
>> >> own point -- serving your customers.
>> >>
>> >> Ann
>> >> ---
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>> >> http://www.hwg.org/services/classes
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >
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