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- From: "Box, Don" <email@example.com>
- To: "Box, Don" <firstname.lastname@example.org>, "'DuCharme, Robert'" <DuCharmR@moodys.com>, "'email@example.com'" <firstname.lastname@example.org>
- Date: Mon, 6 Mar 2000 17:50:33 -0800
Title: Could you post this to xml-dev?
I can't get my messages through to them.
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Box, Don
> Sent: Monday, March 06, 2000 3:28 PM
> To: 'DuCharme, Robert'; 'email@example.com'
> Subject: RE: XML over HTTP: SOAP and ...?
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: DuCharme, Robert [mailto:DuCharmR@moodys.com]
> > Sent: Monday, March 06, 2000 8:39 AM
> > To: firstname.lastname@example.org
> > Subject: XML over HTTP: SOAP and ...?
> > (from David Megginson's "Random XTech observations)
> > >6. Everyone wants to send XML over HTTP. Nothing new
> there, but I'd
> > > like to see some kind of interoperable, critical mass emerge,
> > > whatever the flavour.
> > When a DCOM-oriented colleague asked me about SOAP, I did some quick
> > research to find out the basics. While a heavily
> > Microsoft-backed proposed
> > standard
> SOAP isn't just MS, although having their name on the spec
> pretty much masks anyone else's involvment ;-)
> > often means that there's a non-Microsoft alternative
> > out there, I
> > didn't see any alternative to SOAP.
> There are plenty of XML-based transfer syntaxes out there
> that get applied to HTTP. We had a BOF at XTech and one at
> Sun/Netscape. A bunch of folks are working together to try to
> get everyone to converge on some common ground. I even have a
> picture of me hugging Larry Cable from Sun.
> > I gather from
> > http://www.develop.com/soap/soapfaq.htm#22 that xml-rpc
> > cooperates with SOAP
> > more than it competes with it, although I may have
> misunderstood this.
> That has always been my understanding. I just uploaded my
> XML-RPC->SOAP XSLT. Check out http://soap.develop.com/xmlrpc.
> As SOAP is a functional superset of XML-RPC, one can go from
> XML-RPC to SOAP with no loss, going the other way is tougher
> but doable. I am hoping to work with the XML-RPC community to
> spec out a canonical way to go back and forth. My XSLT is a
> first step in that direction.
> > After reading the above comment from David, I wondered: what
> > other flavors
> > are out there?
> Here's a partial list:
> SOAP: http://www.develop.com/soap
> XML-RPC: http://www.xmlrpc.com
> XMOP/XMTP: http://jabr.ne.mediaone.net/default.htm
Also, WIDL, WDDX, RosettaNet, ebXML, and a few dozen others I can't remember off hand. We looked at a lot of prior art while working on SOAP, and I think you can see the influence of a lot of existing marshaling protocols.