xml-dev - Could you post this to xml-dev?

["Box, Don" <dbox@develop.com>]

Title: Could you post this to xml-dev?

I can't get my messages through to them.

Thanks,
DB

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Box, Don
> Sent: Monday, March 06, 2000 3:28 PM
> To: 'DuCharme, Robert'; 'xml-dev@xml.org'
> Subject: RE: XML over HTTP: SOAP and ...?
>
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: DuCharme, Robert [mailto:DuCharmR@moodys.com]
> > Sent: Monday, March 06, 2000 8:39 AM
> > To: xml-dev@xml.org
> > Subject: XML over HTTP: SOAP and ...?
> >
> >
> > (from David Megginson's "Random XTech observations)
> > >6. Everyone wants to send XML over HTTP.  Nothing new
> there, but I'd
> > >   like to see some kind of interoperable, critical mass emerge,
> > >   whatever the flavour.
> >
> > When a DCOM-oriented colleague asked me about SOAP, I did some quick
> > research to find out the basics. While a heavily
> > Microsoft-backed proposed
> > standard
>
> SOAP isn't just MS, although having their name on the spec
> pretty much masks anyone else's involvment ;-)
>
> > often means that there's a non-Microsoft alternative
> > out there, I
> > didn't see any alternative to SOAP.
>
> There are plenty of XML-based transfer syntaxes out there
> that get applied to HTTP. We had a BOF at XTech and one at
> Sun/Netscape. A bunch of folks are working together to try to
> get everyone to converge on some common ground. I even have a
> picture of me hugging Larry Cable from Sun.
>
> > I gather from
> > http://www.develop.com/soap/soapfaq.htm#22 that xml-rpc
> > cooperates with SOAP
> > more than it competes with it, although I may have
> misunderstood this.
>
> That has always been my understanding. I just uploaded my
> XML-RPC->SOAP XSLT. Check out http://soap.develop.com/xmlrpc.
> As SOAP is a functional superset of XML-RPC, one can go from
> XML-RPC to SOAP with no loss, going the other way is tougher
> but doable. I am hoping to work with the XML-RPC community to
> spec out a canonical way to go back and forth. My XSLT is a
> first step in that direction.
>
> > After reading the above comment from David, I wondered: what
> > other flavors
> > are out there?
>
> Here's a partial list:
>
> SOAP: http://www.develop.com/soap
> XML-RPC: http://www.xmlrpc.com
> XMOP/XMTP: http://jabr.ne.mediaone.net/default.htm
> IOTP:
> http://search.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-trade-iotp-v
1.0-protocol-07.txt
Blocks: http://search.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-mrose-blocks-protocol-00.txt

Also, WIDL, WDDX, RosettaNet, ebXML, and a few dozen others I can't remember off hand. We looked at a lot of prior art while working on SOAP, and I think you can see the influence of a lot of existing marshaling protocols.

DB
http://www.develop.com/dbox