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   RE: Fixing XML-DEV (was RE: State of the art in listserves)

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  • From: "Don Park" <donpark@docuverse.com>
  • To: "'Box, Don'" <dbox@develop.com>, "'Dave Winer'" <dave@userland.com>, <xml-dev@xml.org>
  • Date: Wed, 8 Mar 2000 19:02:10 -0800

Title: Fixing XML-DEV (was RE: State of the art in listserves)
Here here from me too.  BTW, eGroups isn't so bad.  Its got some
extra features like polls, vaults, etc.  Removing annoyed ads from
the SML-DEV mailing list cost me less than $100 a year which is
a reasonable ransom considering the cost of hiring a staff.
Another idea, which will definitely stress out your list server, is a
'buffer zone mailing lists' for all the W3C's XXX-comment@w3.org
Sort of a waystation at the border of singularity.

Don Park    -   mailto:donpark@docuverse.com
Docuverse   -   http://www.docuverse.com

-----Original Message-----
From: owner-xml-dev@xml.org [mailto:owner-xml-dev@xml.org]On Behalf Of Box, Don
Sent: Wednesday, March 08, 2000 10:58 AM
To: 'Dave Winer'; xml-dev@xml.org
Cc: David Megginson; 'peter@ursus.demon.co.uk'
Subject: Fixing XML-DEV (was RE: State of the art in listserves)

Here here! We run the SOAP list (http://discuss.develop.com/soap.html) on the listserv product from L-Soft and have had amazingly good success both in terms of and reliability and in terms of non-commercial community building (except for the DNS name of the server, you would never know the list is hosted by DevelopMentor). If Peter M-R is willing, DevelopMentor would be willing to host/mirror XML-DEV on our existing RELIABLE listserv infrastructure. FWIW, we have a full-time staffer dedicated to keeping this stuff running. I think a well-maintained dedicated listserv installation would be preferrable to a banner-ad ladden commercial site like eGroups.com.


> -----Original Message-----
> From: Dave Winer [mailto:dave@userland.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, March 08, 2000 5:19 AM
> To: xml-dev@xml.org
> Cc: David Megginson
> Subject: State of the art in listserves
> BTW, since my emails seem to be going through today..
> There are lots of <a
> href="http://www.topica.com/create/">free</a> and <a
> href="http://www.egroups.com/">reliable</a> listserves.
> They're fast too, eGroups takes less than a minute to
> distribute an email,
> which makes a difference in how much work you can do in a day.
> It's The Year 2000. This was leading edge stuff in The Year 1980.
> ;->
> Dave
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