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   Re: XML across varied Servers

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  • From: "mark hu" <mark@fintrack.com>
  • To: "Narayanan, Ramesh" <RNarayanan@panasonicfa.com>, "Marcel Ruff" <ruff@swand.lake.de>, <xml-dev@XML.ORG>
  • Date: Fri, 7 Jul 2000 15:49:47 -0400

Thanks for your input, and first of all, I believe u know bit about SOAP,
and if so, MS SOAP Toolkti is based on COM, obviously, u can write the same
code in CORBA - the object model does not really matter for the path you are
taking now, back to couple of years ago, there was a Unix COM lib support
already, besides, if u read Anthony's mail - Re: XML across varied servers
...
* Set up a file share on NT, use samba on UNIX to
 place the file on the share.  Use NT "at" scheduler
 to periodically check for and process new files.
 If going from NT to UNIX, use cron.

* Drop xml files on an NFS-shared volume and use
 NT SFU to grab from UNIX periodically.

* Use FTP to push or pull the files periodically
...
and if u know COM pretty well, u may know u can write executable based COM
server on Unix side, and put the other COM clients or servers on NT side,
and the inter-communications between them are surely easy, u can also call
NT side COM server or service from Unix side through the Unix COM server
mentioned above, combined with SOAP protocol, u can surely transfer
what-ever data u want to, and COM+ improve asynch. calls over COM - cause
COM+ wrap up all the services in NT option-pack into OS level, this will
help - in this way, u make a call from your NT side COM client, and send it
to Unix based COM server, then contiue your regular job - the notification
will reach u later without touching your finger, briefly, that's all - put
in this way, we can say: COM+ = COM + MTS + MSMQ + ....., makeit clear,
right ?



mark
----- Original Message -----
From: Narayanan, Ramesh <RNarayanan@panasonicfa.com>
To: 'mark hu' <mark@fintrack.com>; Marcel Ruff <ruff@swand.lake.de>;
Narayanan, Ramesh <RNarayanan@panasonicfa.com>; <xml-dev@xml.org>
Sent: Friday, July 07, 2000 3:07 PM
Subject: RE: XML across varied Servers


> First Thanks to everyone for all your suggestions.
>
> CORBA or COM are good between systems that support that architecture. But
> when calls have to be made between UNIX to NT, for example, how can i use
> COM+ ?
> Also, CORBA calls become difficult to implement in NT. And anyway if i use
> these proprietary calls to send data, doesnt that defeat the purpose of
XML
> ? The same goes for MSMQ/MQSeries . and anyway MSMQ by itself (except in
> conjunction with LEVEL8's Geneva) doesnt talk to Unix Server,right ?
>
> Thanks,
> Ramesh
> -----Original Message-----
> From: mark hu [mailto:mark@fintrack.com]
> Sent: Friday, July 07, 2000 12:51 PM
> To: Marcel Ruff; Narayanan, Ramesh; xml-dev@xml.org
> Subject: Re: XML across varied Servers
>
>
> it does not have to be CORBA aware.......... ???,  there's no any link
> between asynch. sending/receiving and CORBA, FYI, COM(+) supports asynch.
> calls, messaging and nofication pretty well as well - some aspects are
even
> better than current CORBA.
>
> mark
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Marcel Ruff <ruff@swand.lake.de>
> To: Narayanan, Ramesh <RNarayanan@panasonicfa.com>; <xml-dev@xml.org>
> Sent: Friday, July 07, 2000 3:48 AM
> Subject: Re: XML across varied Servers
>
>
> > "Narayanan, Ramesh" wrote:
> > >
> > > Hello everybody,
> > >
> > >         I understand that XML is great for moving data across
> applications
> > > running under different OS. Every book and article says this is the
> primary
> > > goal of XML. But i dont understand how this is implemented. More
> > > specifically , i need to send an XML document asynchronously from an
> Unix
> > > Server to a Windows NT Server, neither of them running a web server.
How
> can
> > > this be done, without using MSMQ or MQSeries ?  Could somebody throw
> some
> > > light on this ?
> > Consider xmlBlaster, it is a free MOM for commercials as well
> > and runs anywhere.
> >    http://www.xmlBlaster.org
> >
> > You can asynchronously send/receive  XML data using all CORBA aware
> > languages like C++, Java, Perl etc.
> > XML-RPC support is under construction as well.
> >
> > Marcel
> >
> >
> > --
> > Marcel Ruff
> > ruff@swand.lake.de
> > http://www.lake.de/home/lake/swand/
> > http://www.xmlBlaster.org
> >
> >
>
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