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   RE: XML across varied Servers

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  • From: Joshua Allen <joshuaa@microsoft.com>
  • To: "'Narayanan, Ramesh'" <RNarayanan@panasonicfa.com>, "'mark hu'" <mark@fintrack.com>, Marcel Ruff <ruff@swand.lake.de>, xml-dev@xml.org
  • Date: Fri, 7 Jul 2000 17:03:25 -0700

COM+ is just COM with some extra services -- Anyway,
CORBA and DCOM calls are both *synchronous* methods,
as are sockets.  I assume you really do want asynch.
communication?  SOAP/XML-RPC is a more open, standard
way to make calls between systems supporting CORBA, COM,
or practically anything else.  Most SOAP implementations
are based on HTTP, though; and since your question was
about a way to send XML data, you are in the same boat.

Making NT and Unix communicate over MSMQ/MQSeries is
not nearly as difficult as you might think.  Both products
are, IMHO, very easy to use.  SMTP is also quite easy,
and using a database as a queue is also easy.  I suggest
you start with whichever one you prefer and try to prototype
it.  It's not tough..



> -----Original Message-----
> From: Narayanan, Ramesh [mailto:RNarayanan@panasonicfa.com]
> Sent: Friday, July 07, 2000 12:08 PM
> To: 'mark hu'; Marcel Ruff; Narayanan, Ramesh; xml-dev@xml.org
> Subject: RE: XML across varied Servers
> 
> 
> First Thanks to everyone for all your suggestions. 
> 
> CORBA or COM are good between systems that support that 
> architecture. But
> when calls have to be made between UNIX to NT, for example, 
> how can i use
> COM+ ?
> Also, CORBA calls become difficult to implement in NT. And 
> anyway if i use
> these proprietary calls to send data, doesnt that defeat the 
> purpose of XML
> ? The same goes for MSMQ/MQSeries . and anyway MSMQ by itself 
> (except in
> conjunction with LEVEL8's Geneva) doesnt talk to Unix Server,right ?
> 
> Thanks,
> Ramesh
> -----Original Message-----
> From: mark hu [mailto:mark@fintrack.com]
> Sent: Friday, July 07, 2000 12:51 PM
> To: Marcel Ruff; Narayanan, Ramesh; xml-dev@xml.org
> Subject: Re: XML across varied Servers
> 
> 
> it does not have to be CORBA aware.......... ???,  there's no any link
> between asynch. sending/receiving and CORBA, FYI, COM(+) 
> supports asynch.
> calls, messaging and nofication pretty well as well - some 
> aspects are even
> better than current CORBA.
> 
> mark
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Marcel Ruff <ruff@swand.lake.de>
> To: Narayanan, Ramesh <RNarayanan@panasonicfa.com>; <xml-dev@xml.org>
> Sent: Friday, July 07, 2000 3:48 AM
> Subject: Re: XML across varied Servers
> 
> 
> > "Narayanan, Ramesh" wrote:
> > >
> > > Hello everybody,
> > >
> > >         I understand that XML is great for moving data across
> applications
> > > running under different OS. Every book and article says 
> this is the
> primary
> > > goal of XML. But i dont understand how this is implemented. More
> > > specifically , i need to send an XML document 
> asynchronously from an
> Unix
> > > Server to a Windows NT Server, neither of them running a 
> web server. How
> can
> > > this be done, without using MSMQ or MQSeries ?  Could 
> somebody throw
> some
> > > light on this ?
> > Consider xmlBlaster, it is a free MOM for commercials as well
> > and runs anywhere.
> >    http://www.xmlBlaster.org
> >
> > You can asynchronously send/receive  XML data using all CORBA aware
> > languages like C++, Java, Perl etc.
> > XML-RPC support is under construction as well.
> >
> > Marcel
> >
> >
> > --
> > Marcel Ruff
> > ruff@swand.lake.de
> > http://www.lake.de/home/lake/swand/
> > http://www.xmlBlaster.org
> >
> >
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