xml-dev - Re: XML across varied Servers

[Martin West <martin@thecla.freeserve.co.uk>]

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regards Martin West

----- Original Message -----
From: John F. Schlesinger <johns@syscore.com>
To: 'mark hu' <mark@fintrack.com>; 'Narayanan, Ramesh'
<RNarayanan@panasonicfa.com>; 'Marcel Ruff' <ruff@swand.lake.de>;
<xml-dev@xml.org>
Sent: Friday, July 07, 2000 10:19 PM
Subject: RE: XML across varied Servers


> Mark Hu wrote:
> "Thanks for your input, and first of all, I believe u know bit about SOAP,
> and if so, MS SOAP Toolkti is based on COM,..."
>
> Actually, SOAP is not based on COM, it is an alternative to COM that runs
> over HTTP. That is why, I imagine, IBM is pushing it.
>
> Yours,
> John F Schlesinger
> SysCore Solutions
> 212 619 5200 x 219
> 917 886 5895 Mobile
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-xml-dev@xml.org [mailto:owner-xml-dev@xml.org]On Behalf Of
> mark hu
> Sent: Friday, July 07, 2000 3:50 PM
> To: Narayanan, Ramesh; Marcel Ruff; xml-dev@xml.org
> Subject: Re: XML across varied Servers
>
>
> Thanks for your input, and first of all, I believe u know bit about SOAP,
> and if so, MS SOAP Toolkti is based on COM, obviously, u can write the
same
> code in CORBA - the object model does not really matter for the path you
are
> taking now, back to couple of years ago, there was a Unix COM lib support
> already, besides, if u read Anthony's mail - Re: XML across varied servers
> ...
> * Set up a file share on NT, use samba on UNIX to
>  place the file on the share.  Use NT "at" scheduler
>  to periodically check for and process new files.
>  If going from NT to UNIX, use cron.
>
> * Drop xml files on an NFS-shared volume and use
>  NT SFU to grab from UNIX periodically.
>
> * Use FTP to push or pull the files periodically
> ...
> and if u know COM pretty well, u may know u can write executable based COM
> server on Unix side, and put the other COM clients or servers on NT side,
> and the inter-communications between them are surely easy, u can also call
> NT side COM server or service from Unix side through the Unix COM server
> mentioned above, combined with SOAP protocol, u can surely transfer
> what-ever data u want to, and COM+ improve asynch. calls over COM - cause
> COM+ wrap up all the services in NT option-pack into OS level, this will
> help - in this way, u make a call from your NT side COM client, and send
it
> to Unix based COM server, then contiue your regular job - the notification
> will reach u later without touching your finger, briefly, that's all - put
> in this way, we can say: COM+ = COM + MTS + MSMQ + ....., makeit clear,
> right ?
>
>
>
> mark
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Narayanan, Ramesh <RNarayanan@panasonicfa.com>
> To: 'mark hu' <mark@fintrack.com>; Marcel Ruff <ruff@swand.lake.de>;
> Narayanan, Ramesh <RNarayanan@panasonicfa.com>; <xml-dev@xml.org>
> Sent: Friday, July 07, 2000 3:07 PM
> Subject: RE: XML across varied Servers
>
>
> > First Thanks to everyone for all your suggestions.
> >
> > CORBA or COM are good between systems that support that architecture.
But
> > when calls have to be made between UNIX to NT, for example, how can i
use
> > COM+ ?
> > Also, CORBA calls become difficult to implement in NT. And anyway if i
use
> > these proprietary calls to send data, doesnt that defeat the purpose of
> XML
> > ? The same goes for MSMQ/MQSeries . and anyway MSMQ by itself (except in
> > conjunction with LEVEL8's Geneva) doesnt talk to Unix Server,right ?
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Ramesh
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: mark hu [mailto:mark@fintrack.com]
> > Sent: Friday, July 07, 2000 12:51 PM
> > To: Marcel Ruff; Narayanan, Ramesh; xml-dev@xml.org
> > Subject: Re: XML across varied Servers
> >
> >
> > it does not have to be CORBA aware.......... ???,  there's no any link
> > between asynch. sending/receiving and CORBA, FYI, COM(+) supports
asynch.
> > calls, messaging and nofication pretty well as well - some aspects are
> even
> > better than current CORBA.
> >
> > mark
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Marcel Ruff <ruff@swand.lake.de>
> > To: Narayanan, Ramesh <RNarayanan@panasonicfa.com>; <xml-dev@xml.org>
> > Sent: Friday, July 07, 2000 3:48 AM
> > Subject: Re: XML across varied Servers
> >
> >
> > > "Narayanan, Ramesh" wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Hello everybody,
> > > >
> > > >         I understand that XML is great for moving data across
> > applications
> > > > running under different OS. Every book and article says this is the
> > primary
> > > > goal of XML. But i dont understand how this is implemented. More
> > > > specifically , i need to send an XML document asynchronously from an
> > Unix
> > > > Server to a Windows NT Server, neither of them running a web server.
> How
> > can
> > > > this be done, without using MSMQ or MQSeries ?  Could somebody throw
> > some
> > > > light on this ?
> > > Consider xmlBlaster, it is a free MOM for commercials as well
> > > and runs anywhere.
> > >    http://www.xmlBlaster.org
> > >
> > > You can asynchronously send/receive  XML data using all CORBA aware
> > > languages like C++, Java, Perl etc.
> > > XML-RPC support is under construction as well.
> > >
> > > Marcel
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > Marcel Ruff
> > > ruff@swand.lake.de
> > > http://www.lake.de/home/lake/swand/
> > > http://www.xmlBlaster.org
> > >
> > >
> >
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