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   Re: XML across varied Servers

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  • From: Martin West <martin@thecla.freeserve.co.uk>
  • To: Anthony Marino <anthony@nlink.com>,'Joshua Allen ' <joshuaa@microsoft.com>,"''Narayanan, Ramesh' '" <RNarayanan@panasonicfa.com>, xml-dev@xml.org
  • Date: Thu, 13 Jul 2000 20:07:20 +0100

Or you could use a JMS http://java.sun.com/products/jms/index.html
implementation like the one provided by SpiritSoft
http://www.spirit-soft.com
and use the push technologies.
Martin West
VP of Engineering
SpiritSoft
replyto: Martin.West@spirit-soft.com

----- Original Message -----
From: Anthony Marino <anthony@nlink.com>
To: 'Joshua Allen ' <joshuaa@microsoft.com>; ''Narayanan, Ramesh' '
<RNarayanan@panasonicfa.com>; <xml-dev@xml.org>
Sent: Friday, July 07, 2000 5:21 AM
Subject: RE: XML across varied Servers


> Check sonicMQ out.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Joshua Allen
> To: 'Narayanan, Ramesh'; 'xml-dev@xml.org'
> Sent: 7/6/00 9:03 PM
> Subject: RE: XML across varied Servers
>
> MQSeries and MSMQ are the best way to move XML documents
> asynchronously.  However, there are many other ways you
> can accomplish asynchronous transfer of XML documents.
>
> Some possibilities:
> * Set up a file share on NT, use samba on UNIX to
>  place the file on the share.  Use NT "at" scheduler
>  to periodically check for and process new files.
>  If going from NT to UNIX, use cron.
>
> * Drop xml files on an NFS-shared volume and use
>  NT SFU to grab from UNIX periodically.
>
> * Use FTP to push or pull the files periodically.
>
> * Use SMTP (some sort of command-line sendmail utility
>  on UNIX) to send the file, use CDO on NT to read the
>  messages from e-mail periodically.
>
> * Use a database-access library on UNIX to stuff
>  the XML documents in rows in a relational database
>  (SQL Server, DB2, etc. -- whatever you have).
>  Use ADO on the NT side to pull out records as they
>  arrive.
>
> There are many, many ways that you can accomplish
> asynchronous transfer of XML documents -- those are just
> a few.  When you write your own, though, think hard
> about how your system will behave in failure situations,
> concurrency, etc.  With the last option I mentioned
> (database), at least you get serialization, transactional
> control on reads and writes, and so on.  If you are doing
> your own scheme with FTP, what happens for example if
> the connection gets dropped partway through transfer?
> You have to write quite a bit of plumbing yourself; that
> is why message queuing software is so popular; you get
> all that stuff for free.
>
> Joshua Allen
> Microsoft eBusiness West Region
> "No challenge can withstand the assault of sustained thinking" -
> Voltaire
>
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Narayanan, Ramesh [mailto:RNarayanan@panasonicfa.com]
> > Sent: Thursday, July 06, 2000 2:39 PM
> > To: 'xml-dev@xml.org'
> > Subject: XML across varied Servers
> >
> >
> >
> > Hello everybody,
> >
> > I understand that XML is great for moving data across
> > applications
> > running under different OS. Every book and article says this
> > is the primary
> > goal of XML. But i dont understand how this is implemented. More
> > specifically , i need to send an XML document asynchronously
> > from an Unix
> > Server to a Windows NT Server, neither of them running a web
> > server. How can
> > this be done, without using MSMQ or MQSeries ?  Could
> > somebody throw some
> > light on this ?
> >
> > Thanks in advance,
> > Ramesh
> >
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