xml-dev - RE: RDF, the "semantic web", and the nadir of AI (was RE: Realist icprop

["Bullard, Claude L (Len)" <clbullar@ingr.com>]

Thanks for entering the thread.  Much appreciated. 

You have stated a position that roughly says, we 
can do useful stuff with RDF.  I am familiar with prolog, also 
did time fascinated with the ultra-claims of AI, and live in a 
country that thinks talk radio is journalism, so I am used 
to hype in decision making and the rhetoric of the market. 
Only informed debate and attention clarifies such.

I am not marketing here.  Some threads are overlapping.  One 
that the W3C shows a distinct lack of clarity and that is 
impeding progress in implementation.   The "semantic web" 
has come up as an example.  During the debate, that term has 
come down to the use of URIs and RDF.  We are making progress 
in clarifying the vagueness of the W3C ideas.

So far, so good.  Given a web of services, what services 
will frame-based/RDF/AI provide?   We can save the comparisons 
to OLAP and other technologies to later.  They do work, are 
being used far more widely, and thus don't have to be 
defended post-emergence.

I picked your article up from xml.com because it was the 
most well-stated with code examples.  We need that level 
of expertise to sketch out use cases.  Drop the term 
semantic web if as for others here, it does not add useful 
information.

Len 
http://www.mp3.com/LenBullard

Ekam sat.h, Vipraah bahudhaa vadanti.
Daamyata. Datta. Dayadhvam.h


-----Original Message-----
From: uche.ogbuji@fourthought.com [mailto:uche.ogbuji@fourthought.com]

Egads!  I hope you don't mean the slightest implication that I speak
the W3C's words.  Look, I don't understand half what TBL says, and except
for
occasional lapses, I avoid the term "semantic web" because I'm not quite
clear of what it, er, means.


> "RDF is the key to a proven design pattern, in which we build portal and
> intranet-type Web applications by marshalling numerous XML snippets. It
> helps us build multi-dimensional structures of object relationships,
which
> are usually cumbersome and unmanageable using traditional database
designs."
> - Uche Ogbuji 

It will be instructive to the rest of the discussion to note that I
restrict my claims to "portals and intranet-type applications".  Note that
these are closed systems.  I shall defend my claim in that space.  If you
wish to migrate the discussion to the open Web, prepare to drop me off
because I don't claim to pack that long a water-stick.