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Fw: RSS 1.0 vs. RSS 0.9*
- From: Dave Winer <firstname.lastname@example.org>
- To: "XML-Dev (E-mail)" <email@example.com>
- Date: Mon, 05 Mar 2001 09:31:16 -0800
----- Original Message -----
From: "Dave Winer" <firstname.lastname@example.org>
To: "Matt Sergeant" <email@example.com>
Sent: Monday, March 05, 2001 9:24 AM
Subject: Re: RSS 1.0 vs. RSS 0.9*
> You raise quite a few questions -- I don't care to examine which is a
> "better" base. If 0.91 had not happened, I'd either give my format a
> different name, other than RSS, or I'd be compatible with the latest prior
> version, which was 0.91. Just because a very small group of people feel
> something is "better" doesn't give them power to make others adopt their
> point of view. They may believe they have that power, there's no force
> behind the belief. (This is one of the major disconnects of *this* mail
> list, the belief that there are hordes of developers just waiting to adopt
> whatever decisions come. The evidence is pretty clear that very few are
> Ultimately I think what's going to matter is the utility of features that
> beyond 0.91, Megginson gives the RDF guys some really bad advice, to wait
> deploy their modules. If their format is to have a chance, they have to
> hurry, there's no time to waste. 0.92 significantly raises the bar,
> the complexity of modules, RDF, namespaces, and is compatible with 0.91
> a 0.91 feed is also a 0.92 feed).
> I'd suggest doing the A-B comparison. The RDF-based format plus all its
> modules vs 0.92. I think this will also make clear that the path that XML
> going down is needlessly complex. What's needed is good solid
> design and a willingness to work with others, not a mechanism for people
> work independently because they can't work together. A difference in
> philosophy that yields different a quality of result for users and content
> And yes, we have built an application that uses all but one of the new
> features in 0.92, and I think it's going to enlarge the utilization of
> technology by several orders of magnitude, even in beta it has. Instead of
> four or five aggregators, there are 39 running at this moment, and we
> haven't started promoting yet. Here's a list of their 100 favorite feeds:
> That page is updated every hour. I believe that all these 100 feeds are
> either 0.91 or 0.92.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Matt Sergeant" <firstname.lastname@example.org>
> To: "Dave Winer" <email@example.com>
> Cc: "XML-Dev (E-mail)" <firstname.lastname@example.org>
> Sent: Monday, March 05, 2001 8:16 AM
> Subject: Re: RSS 1.0 vs. RSS 0.9*
> > On Mon, 5 Mar 2001, Dave Winer wrote:
> > > David, I don't see the boom in support for the RDF-based format.
> > > since it's not backward compatible with previous version, it would be
> > > to make that clear up front so that people don't have to wade through
> > > the docs and modules and other specs to find out that it actually
> > > at all, in any technical sense. It would be as if I came out with XML
> > > and dropped support for attributes and put them in a namespace. I'm
> > > that wouldn't go over well with all the people who had deployed XML
> > > apps, and it should be explained and disclaimed upfront, imho.
> > Umm, is 0.91 backwards compatible with 0.9 ?
> > FWIW, 1.0 *is* backwards compatible with 0.9, just not backwards
> > compatible with 0.91. This was because (I assume) the guys behind 1.0
> > decided 0.9 was a better base design to start from.
> > Will we be seeing 0.92 feeds just because Frontier will release new code
> > to support it, or are you aware of people actively implementing 0.92
> > code for the popular web languages out there?
> > Matt.