SV: Copyrighting schemas, Hailstorm

[Dimitris Dimitriadis <dimitris.dimitriadis@improve.se>]

This is of course not a definition. Consider it a mix of (ostensive)
definition and use case.

/D

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Från: Dimitris Dimitriadis [mailto:dimitris.dimitriadis@improve.se]
Skickat: den 1 juni 2001 19:25
Till: 'Bullard, Claude L (Len)'
Kopia: XML DEV
Ämne: SV: Copyrighting schemas, Hailstorm


OK

This is my (first shot at a) definition of corporate-owned identity:

1. Company X provides authentication
2. Same company provides access to services that require afore mentioned
authentication
3. Company X logs information about user's habits, acquisitions, email,
calls, movies watched etc (I know this happens at present as well, just
imagine this magnified by a sufficiently large number)
4. Company X uses this information to predict behaviors and tailor-make
offers or what have you. This is how I suppose this new model of economy
provides the possibility to make money, by hooking up smaller actors. Like a
mall renting the space to the various shops. You still go to the mall.
5. More and more of activities that now require identification go digital
over time, possibly through services similar to the ones I describe above.
Nowadays, identification is made using government-controlled means.
Tomorrow?

Look at it from en ethical/legal perspective. Imagine where you would apply
for a new passport were 1-5 to happen. Should you be expected to submit your
application through a web-service? That your government subscribes to? Owns?

I don't know, I just get a bit worried by someone wanting to own the channel
through which people interact with others (here I do not mean the connection
to the internet) as well as their means of asserting that they are who they
claim.

/Dimitris

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Från: Bullard, Claude L (Len) [mailto:clbullar@ingr.com]
Skickat: den 1 juni 2001 18:42
Till: Dimitris Dimitriadis
Kopia: XML DEV
Ämne: RE: Copyrighting schemas, Hailstorm


Please elaborate a little on your definition of 
"corpoate owned identity on the net".  I can 
go tangential fast. :-) 

My view is that no company can both sell the 
software that handles the global registry and 
sell the service too.  That isn't a technical 
issue but something like saying a gun manufacturer 
can't field it's own army.  If the Hailstorm 
services depend on Microsoft owned servers, 
it's dead.  They aren't allowed to be a troll 
beneath the bridge.

Len 
http://www.mp3.com/LenBullard

Ekam sat.h, Vipraah bahudhaa vadanti.
Daamyata. Datta. Dayadhvam.h


-----Original Message-----
From: Dimitris Dimitriadis [mailto:dimitris.dimitriadis@improve.se]
Sent: Friday, June 01, 2001 11:35 AM
To: Bullard, Claude L (Len)
Cc: XML DEV
Subject: SV: Copyrighting schemas, Hailstorm


While acknowledging your point, I'll allude to your first paragraph.

I'd like to see a discussion on corporate-owned identity on the net, which I
can't say I'm a big fan of.

Your views?

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