RE: (OT) OS other than Win

["Williams, David" <DAVID.WILLIAMS@ca.com>]

Wow...

And I thought _EVERYONE_ knew he was being sarcastic... From paying attention to Len's _past_ posts, I don't see how anyone could have imagined it differently..

But then again, I've always been naieve that way. :-)~


~Dave


-----Original Message-----
From: Guy Murphy [mailto:guy-murphy@easynet.co.uk]
Sent: Tuesday, July 10, 2001 5:20 AM
To: Sterin, Ilya; Joel Rees
Cc: xml-dev@lists.xml.org
Subject: Re: (OT) OS other than Win


Hiyas.

A sarcastic comment in the midst of a post is one thing, pursuing sarcasm as
the made mode of discourse throughout a thread is simply the intellectual
equivalent of masturbation. Fine in private company but gets to become
distasteful if pursued in public among strangers.

Sarcasm is also the ultimate emergency escape called upon when one can't
substantiate a position.

Standards are not a new thing, have been around for quite a while, and are
not yet a political mandate. The adoption of most standards is remarkably
organic. One might look for instance at XSLT and XSL:FO that first split due
to public pressure, leaving one later to atrophy.

The ultimate irony is to find somebody disparaging standards as a dirty
word, then advocating that everybody use the one OS to facilitate progress.
Of course the reading has to determine whether the person pursuing this
argument is being deliberately ironic.

Cheers
    Guy.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Sterin, Ilya" <Isterin@ciber.com>
To: "Joel Rees" <rees@mediafusion.co.jp>
Cc: <xml-dev@lists.xml.org>
Sent: Tuesday, July 10, 2001 4:10 AM
Subject: RE: (OT) OS other than Win


>
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Joel Rees [mailto:rees@server.mediafusion.co.jp]
> > Sent: Monday, July 09, 2001 11:01 PM
> > To: Sterin, Ilya
> > Cc: xml-dev@lists.xml.org
> > Subject: Re: (OT) OS other than Win
> >
> >
> > From my observations of the list, Len is about as opened minded a
> > person as
> > you could ever hope to meet.
>
> I'm beginning to see that, but use of sarcasm is sometimes misunderstood
and
> should be used carefully, especially in an international mailing list,
where
> some might take him serious and start a big OT argument.
>
> >
> > He also seems to be overly adept at the use of sarcasm, but I get the
> > feeling that's mostly when he's been up too late at night.
> >
> > (Hope you don't mind my saying so, Len.)
> >
> > Joel
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Sterin, Ilya" <Isterin@ciber.com>
> > To: "Joel Rees" <rees@mediafusion.co.jp>
> > Cc: "''XML-DEV ' '" <xml-dev@lists.xml.org>
> > Sent: Tuesday, July 10, 2001 11:56 AM
> > Subject: RE: (OT) OS other than Win
> >
> >
> > > If you could only explain what you are talking about, that would be
very
> > > nice.  You should really read the whole thread before replying to one
> > > statement.
> > >
> > > Ilya
> > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: Joel Rees [mailto:rees@server.mediafusion.co.jp]
> > > > Sent: Monday, July 09, 2001 10:32 PM
> > > > To: Sterin, Ilya
> > > > Cc: ''XML-DEV ' '
> > > > Subject: Re: OS other than Win
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Sterin, Ilya pontificated:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > I think technology is moving at a much faster pace that he can
> > > > > handle, so we must all slow down.
> > > >
> > > > <troll>What a wonderful idea! Tell it to Bill, too, while you're at
> > > > it.</troll>
> > > >
> > > > Joel
> > > >
> > > > PS: Hmmm. Maybe those troll labels still need some work.
> > >
>
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