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   RE: [xml-dev] ECMA Standardizes C#

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Yep, that is the sad side effect.  I have to admit 
it is a brilliant play by MS and defensible. Sun made 
that inevitable and because we have tried to use 
"standard" as a way to push more emphasis on the 
W3C and away from ISO et al, and not properly conveyed 
that a specification for a system to be built and 
tested could then become the basis for a standard for 
a system that works and does a well-spec'd job so 
evolves only when that job changes, we helped make 
all that possible.  That was the danger of emphasizing 
Internet Time as affecting a standard.   IMO, the 
idea of recommendations and specifications as the 
basis for the W3C was brilliant precisely because 
it accounts for the effects of the rapid communications 
and community-building we call Internet Time.

All that aside, do you think the CLR notion has 
the technical merit that it deserves a second 


-----Original Message-----
From: Tim Bray [mailto:tbray@textuality.com]

Bullard, Claude L (Len) wrote:

> "ECMA has finished the standardization of the common language 
> infrastructure of the .NET Framework and the C# programming language, 
> taking yet another step towards building an open XML Web services platform."
> Weird how the world turns.  MS supports a standard and Java advocates are
> backing a proprietary language.  

As of now, C# represents a total commitment to Microsoft lock-in,
and Java doesn't particularly lock you into anyone.  C# could be
fixed by ensuring there were multiple CLR implementations that
worked equally well and had no Windows dependencies.  This may
well happen.

I'm not saying that the way Sun leans on Java is defensible, or
that there's anything wrong with C# as a language. -Tim


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