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   Re: [xml-dev] Push and Pull?

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Sterin, Ilya" <Isterin@ciber.com>
To: "'Jeff Lowery '" <jlowery@scenicsoft.com>; "''Dare Obasanjo ' '"
<kpako@yahoo.com>; <xml-dev@lists.xml.org>
Sent: Friday, January 25, 2002 12:39 PM
Subject: RE: [xml-dev] Push and Pull?

> > batch (or ??)- DOM: A single method loads the document in-memory. The
> > app
> > then navigates at its leisure
> Ok, but I would consider this pull as well.  Why do you not think that the
> pull concept applies here.  Instead of telling the parser what to load as in
> your pull explanation above, you are in a way telling it to load the whole
> document and make all nodes relavant.  Then I think we are in the pull
> concept area again?

The words pull and push refer to a parsing (or less technically, a processing)
model. Loading everything into the DOM and fiddling the DOM object model is
not a parsing model or a processing one at that. Misusing these terms is
folly. There is enough confusion in the XML world as it is where people can't
agree on the meanings of words specified and defined in RFCs and W3C recs,
don't complicate it further by changing the agreed upon meaning of words on a

> > Sounds like we may need to standardize terms here...
> That's what I am after.  I just want to make sure that the terms can be
> refered to in some sort of a document, thread, online resource, etc...  Or I
> can just read everything about push and pull at this time and disagree or
> agree based on my view.  Standardizing the terms and the meanings, we'll
> have something to refer to, even if someone's view (like mine:-) is
> different.

The meanings of these words are already standardized, you're the first person
I've ever seen disagree with them.

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be activated by a lever that someone could trigger by accidentally falling
on when fatally wounded.

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