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I actually wasn't thinking of standards compliance when I replied. I was
thinking more that the idea of calling a closed network where one
company calls the shots and deigns to allow select people to write apps
to communicate between users of the network a "web services platform"
seems to be a misnomer.
Of course, Napster's servers weren't the only servers on the network so
there may have been room for outsiders and heterogeneity (sp?) but I
would surely have been dissatisfied if the "web services revolution" as
some like to call it was reduced to simply writing Napster apps and plug
ins.
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THINGS TO DO IF I BECOME AN EVIL OVERLORD #34
I will not turn into a snake. It never helps.
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Joshua Allen
> Sent: Monday, February 18, 2002 8:31 PM
> To: Dare Obasanjo; 'Dave Winer'; 'xml-dev@lists.xml.org'
> Subject: RE: [xml-dev] Traditional RPC
>
>
>
> Actually, that is *exactly* what Steve Case is thinking. The
> thing that was remarkable about Napster was how quickly Sean
> Fanning was able to move from nothing to a practical monopoly
> in such a short time -- all without paying an ounce of
> attention to the standards. So I think that Dave's point is
> that predicting a system's demise based on its adherence (or
> lack of) to standards, is not very reliable. Napster died
> because it stepped on the toes of the media companies, not
> because it had a poor record of working in standards organizations.
>
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Dare Obasanjo [mailto:dareo@microsoft.com]
> > Sent: Monday, February 18, 2002 8:16 PM
> > To: Dave Winer; xml-dev@lists.xml.org
> > Subject: RE: [xml-dev] Traditional RPC
> >
> > Was that a serious answer? The fact that millions of people
> > communicate using software that talks a proprietary protocol on the
> > Internet somehow translates to that being a killer web service
> > platform?
> >
> > I guess someone better call Steve Case and tell him he's
> sitting on an
> > untapped Web Services gold mine. ;)
> >
> > --
> > THINGS TO DO IF I BECOME AN EVIL OVERLORD #34
> > I will not turn into a snake. It never helps.
> >
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Dave Winer [mailto:dave@userland.com]
> > > Sent: Monday, February 18, 2002 8:08 PM
> > > To: xml-dev@lists.xml.org
> > > Subject: Re: [xml-dev] Traditional RPC
> > >
> > >
> > > >>If the Napster protocol is so fantastic why aren't we using
> > > it for Web
> > > Services?
> > >
> > > I'm going to assume this is a serious question.
> > >
> > > The only thing that's fantastic about the Napster
> protocol was the
> > > number of people who used software that communicated using that
> > > protocol.
> > >
> > > The reason we're not using it is that Napster went bye-bye.
> > >
> > > Dave
> > >
> > >
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