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Things built for or driven *mostly* by the 
military, you *mostly* don't see or drive.
Unless it's a Humvee, of course.

CALS was a flop.  Requirements creep killed it 
but a lot of the SGML industry made money there. 
Next time you find yourself paying your team 
out of your pocket, consider that their checks 
don't bounce but they have a habit of either 
cancelling programs that don't deliver, or 
funding them forever.  Flip the coin.  One 
problem with web tech and the military is 
buggedness.  They often want to own the 
codebase for obvious reasons.  Web services 
may hit the same wall if something isn't 
done about that problem.

ADA works for those who loved it and learned it, 
but it is huge and a lot to learn.  Still, I know 
people in the aircraft industry who swear by it. 
Like SecDef Perry's infamous "No more standards" speech, top 
down orders to adopt any technology across 
the board application usually choke in the 
waivers the PMs issue.  That was a dumb idea and 
we knew it then.  Still, ADA lovers abound.  It 
would be interesting to hear their input.


"The Defense Advanced Research Projects Agency (DARPA) is the 
central research and development organization for the Department of Defense (DoD). 
It manages and directs selected basic and applied research and development
projects for DoD, and pursues research and technology where risk and payoff 
are both very high and where success may provide dramatic advances
for traditional military roles and missions."

They seem to think they're DoD.

We'll have to review the history of ARPANET. 
It started out as command and control for DoD after a 
nuclear blowout.  After that, it became a public research 
project called "The Internet".  Still is.


-----Original Message-----
From: Tim Bray [mailto:tbray@textuality.com]

At 05:17 PM 19/03/02 -0600, Bullard, Claude L (Len) wrote:
> Tim says military support 
>isn't a reliable predictor. 

I said it's a weak but useful *negative* predictor.
Things built mostly for or driven mostly by the military
tend to flop.  Examples include CALS and Ada.  The
obvious counter-example is the Arpanet which was
an important step on the road to the Internet, but
DARPA and DoD are two very different things, and
at no point was the Arpanet primarily of, for, or
by the military.  -Tim


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