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You know what? I forwarded the url for this article to one of the TCs
I belong to, and haven't heard boo about it. I think it is very
important, since it will be a real deal killer, and yet, I see this
headlong rush and it is just amazing.
Is there something inherently wrong with just proceeding to start
small in scope and do what you can do well as you can as long as it
allows for further development and doesn't box you into a corner or
add so much computational overhead that it becomes unuseable?
I'm seeing what looks like some real boners going by and I know they
are gonna come back and bite folks in the posterior. However, trying
to flag down some of these is a prescription for being run over. It
is the second of Len's thriving-mechanisms that is running a lot of
shows right now. Being in the other camp requires a lot of ducking to
simply stay in the game while just getting smaller initial versions
out that can prove usefulness while allowing the larger vocabularies
to build, (I hope!).
Pretty amazing.
Rex
At 9:45 AM -0500 5/22/02, Bullard, Claude L (Len) wrote:
>And that isn't really hard to do. If we step back from the
>XMLness of it and look at the application we are building,
>it is not too hard to show why XML is benefitting us. On
>the other hand, if we step back and realize XML got applied
>just because it was there, that project has a problem. That
>is the fear of asking the question, the fear of introspection
>at the local level.
>
>So, does XML thrive based on very large specifications for
>document vocabularies that take years to complete, or does
>it thrive based on system to system communications worked
>out during the implementation of the interfaces?
>
>Both, but one is a slow wheel and the other is fast. The first
>has to be sold top down; the second just gets built.
>
>XML can absolutely work with the bigLangs, but small
>scopes better, faster, and the learning curve if
>awkward is still moving forward. My problem with
>the "Is XML useful?" articles is they have to say
>for what before I can answer. Otherwise, we will say
>yes, take their money, and they have no recourse
>except to whine about it in USA Today. Caveat emptor.
>
>len
>
>
>From: Mike Champion [mailto:mc@xegesis.org]
>
>5/22/2002 9:17:35 AM, "Bullard, Claude L (Len)" <clbullar@ingr.com> wrote:
>
>>Tools aren't what we lack. Applications are what we lack.
>> ... [XML] makes no sense
>>to the CEO out of the box except to say "well, everyone is doing it" and
>>that is precisely the hyped stupidity that got SGML in trouble,
>>object-oriented
>>programming in trouble, AI in trouble and a lot of otherwise valuable but
>>almost failed emerging tech.
>
>I guess that's the answer to my question in a nutshell. "What's
>wrong" is that
>XML/Web developers and advocates got used to life in the "everyone
>is doing it, me
>too!" era, and we now live in a "I'll buy it it has a substantial short term
>velue" era.
>
>"What is to be done" is that we have to "sell" (literally or figuratively)
>the tools by pointing to the successful applications that they built,
>not by appealing to the fearof not being on the Next Big Thing bandwagon.
>That means that we have to justify the XML specs in terms of tangible
>practical benefit to users rather than "wouldn't be cool if we could ..."
>or "we all know that the Right Thing is to ...".
>
>
>
>
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