RE: [xml-dev] Re: URIs, concrete (was Re: [xml-dev] Un-ask the question)

["Dare Obasanjo" <dareo@microsoft.com>]

Simon, 
  The feature isn't useless. Most people agree that attributes are meant for annotating elements. The Namespaces in XML recommendation allows authors to choose between context sensitive attribute values E.g. 
 
<myns:Parent name="must be a number between 1 - 100"><myns:Child name="can be any string"/></myns:Parent>
 
or creating global attributes that represent the same idea regardless of what element they appear on
 
<myns:Parent myns:id="must be unique in document"><myns:Child myns:id="must be unique in document"><></myns:Parent>

	-----Original Message----- 
	From: Simon St.Laurent [mailto:simonstl@simonstl.com] 
	Sent: Wed 7/31/2002 3:10 PM 
	To: Tim Bray 
	Cc: XML DEV 
	Subject: Re: [xml-dev] Re: URIs, concrete (was Re: [xml-dev] Un-ask the question)
	
	

	Tim Bray writes:
	> And yes, it is obvious that an attribute can draw the bulk of its
	> semantic import from the namespace it's in, rather than the context of
	> the containing element.  Consider
	>
	> <anyOldElementAtAllIDontCareWhich xml:lang="fr">Bonjour!  ...
	
	Yes, and you've completely missed my point yet again.  I'm not arguing
	that prefixed attributes should be in the namespace of the element
	containing them.  I'm arguing that _unprefixed_ attributes should be
	treated as if they had the same namespace as the element containing
	them.
	
	> There's a technical term for Simon's argument in this case: "wrong".
	
	There's a technical term for the Namespaces in XML Recommendation, but
	I'm afraid it's unprintable.  I stand by my claim.
	
	I'd like to propose that it's past time to fix these issues instead of
	leaving them to fester.
	
	--
	Simon St.Laurent
	Ring around the content, a pocket full of brackets
	Errors, errors, all fall down!
	http://simonstl.com
	
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