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   RE: [xml-dev] Don't Let Architecture Astronauts Scare You

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I could swear that MSFT types are all about Web Services given the amount of Microsoft names that adorn the W3C standards[0,1] and the various GxA initiatives by Microsoft[2,3]. 
If you want to criticize Joel's perspective you should perhaps look at the fact that his background is in platform specific , shrink wrapped software and thus the problems distributed application developers face have never been the same as his. 
[0] http://www.w3.org/TR/soap12-part1/
[1] http://www.w3.org/TR/wsdl
[2] http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/default.asp?url=/library/en-us/dngxa/html/gloxmlws500.asp
[3] http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/default.asp?url=/library/en-us/dnglobspec/html/wsspecsover.asp <http://www.w3.org/TR/soap12-part1/> 

	-----Original Message----- 
	From: Rich Salz [mailto:rsalz@datapower.com] 
	Sent: Sat 9/14/2002 9:09 PM 
	To: Alaric Snell 
	Cc: XML Dev 
	Subject: Re: [xml-dev] Don't Let Architecture Astronauts Scare You

	There's a fundamental difference between then and now.  For the first
	time, *everyone* is providing the same distributed systems
	infrastructure.  As an application person, I don't have to get a JRE on
	every machine, or put a Corba/IIOP engine on the desktop, etc.   The
	barrier to deployment of distributed applicaitons -- and soon, secure
	distributed applications -- is nearly zero.  That's an important first.
	Joel, an MSFT type, either doesn't see or doesn't appreciate this.
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