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   RE: [xml-dev] Don't Let Architecture Astronauts Scare You

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  • To: "Paul Brown" <prb@fivesight.com>,"XML Dev" <xml-dev@lists.xml.org>
  • Subject: RE: [xml-dev] Don't Let Architecture Astronauts Scare You
  • From: "Dare Obasanjo" <dareo@microsoft.com>
  • Date: Sat, 14 Sep 2002 20:12:22 -0700
  • Thread-index: AcJcTahnKbzev4e8SZ+dWRTgyDzmswAADWagAAW8lVQ=
  • Thread-topic: [xml-dev] Don't Let Architecture Astronauts Scare You

When I see research/academic experience on someone's resume I don't think "Hmmm, there's someone who can solve problems" instead I think "There's someone who would rather spend time on politics and pontification than work on shipping a working product". 
Your criticism of Joel's awareness of the problems that Web Services are trying to solve may be correct but you significantly weakened your argument with the unnecessary ad hominim. 

	-----Original Message----- 
	From: Paul Brown [mailto:prb@fivesight.com] 
	Sent: Sat 9/14/2002 6:21 PM 
	To: XML Dev 
	Subject: RE: [xml-dev] Don't Let Architecture Astronauts Scare You

	> From: Alaric Snell
	> http://www.joelonsoftware.com/articles/fog0000000018.html
	> "Remember that the architecture people are solving problems
	> that they think they can solve, not problems which are useful
	> to solve."
	There are five parts to solving a problem: (1) having a problem, (2) identifying a solvable subset with respect to time/complexity and total value, (3) inspiration, (4) creating a solution, (5) using it.  I don't see any research/academic experience on the Joel's resume, so I'm not surprised that he's ignorant of the process of doing new work.  We are at the tail end of 3 with respect to web services in that we have a good idea of the lemmas that will be necessary to prove the desired result: the packaging and (re)use of well-defined hunks of functionality in a distributed, heterogeneous environment (hardware/software/connectivity).


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