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   Re: [xml-dev] Don't Let Architecture Astronauts Scare You

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Alexander apparrantly thinks his qualities (such as the Quality Without A Name)
reflect basic human/psychological (and religious/aesthetic) truths:
interesting patterns are anthoprological rather than ideological or artistic.  

For example, his pattern that the vertical space in a room should
be in reverse to it privacy and intimicy (a bedroom should have
a low ceiling, a railway concourse should have a high ceiling) is
something that could be tested: hook people up to some meter
of comfort and see how people feel in a crowded room with 
a low ceiling, and so on.

Rick Jelliffe

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Bill de hÓra" <bill.dehora@propylon.com>
To: "'Elliotte Rusty Harold'" <elharo@metalab.unc.edu>; <xml-dev@lists.xml.org>
Sent: Wednesday, September 18, 2002 6:38 PM
Subject: RE: [xml-dev] Don't Let Architecture Astronauts Scare You

> From: Elliotte Rusty Harold [mailto:elharo@metalab.unc.edu] 
> Honestly, I don't know. I'm, not a car person. I don't think I've 
> driven either. However, the claim was made that the Buick is easier 
> to drive. Assuming that's true, on what grounds would you claim that 
> the Mercedes is better designed? especially in an industrial design 
> sense as opposed to a graphic design sense? Are there any criteria 
> that outweigh ease-of-use?

Well you can apply ergonomics to measure ease of use and various
'ilities' as we call them in this business. But the problem is choosing
the criteria in the first place. This is much the same problem as
Alexander had; nice ideas but why those criteria? His criteria would be
very different to those of Le Corbusier and Buckminster Fuller and going
back to industrial design, Henry Dreyfuss, NASA or USAF. It's
interesting we seem to like Alexander's criteria more than others.

Bill de hÓra 


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