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This is actually something similar to what I intend to implement over an XML
Repository [probably Xindice].

We have a requirement to be able to; given a node, find all annotations [of
a particular type or matching certain criteria], on that node.

While I want to be able to express this as an Axis in the XPath object
model, I've got a few problems with that:
1.  How do I specify the Annotation context for the annotation axis.  Our
annotations are stored as standoff annotations, and to complicate things
further, may apply to either a single document or a collection of documents.
2.  It's a heck of a lot easier to create a new XPath function in existing
public domain XPath implementations than it is to change the parsing and
execution model.
3.  The association between a node and it's annotation isn't totally clear.
Does a node have an annotation if the annotation directly specifies the
node?  That's easy -- yes.  Does the node have an annotation if it's
ancestor has an annotation?  That's not very clear, although I lean towards
yes.  So, then I really want to axes, the annotation:: axis which returns
the former, and the annotation-closure:: axis, which returns the latter.

This became to complicated for what I required in the short run, so, I've
made a design decision that we'll probably have to go the function route.

What I came up with for an API was:

node-set extension:annot(node-set source [, string tag])

Returns the node-set consisting of all annotations on source.  If tag is
supplied, then only those annotations whose element name matches it will be
returned.  The value of tag is a list of tags to be included in the result,
separated by white space or | symbols [NOTE: What I really wanted to pass in
to this function here was a relative location path so that I could optimize
the selection].

So expr[extension:annot(.,"tag")] returns anly those nodes which have a
<tag> annotation, and expr[extension:annot(./ancestor-or-self,"tag")]
selects a similar set, save that the annotation can be on the nodes or its
ancestors.  I didn't feel it necessary to have a function that automatically
applied the ancestor-or-self notion simply because the number of ancestors
is going to be small [3-7] for any given node I have to apply this to in our
system, however, I may change my mind once I start implementing.

Of course, I still haven't figured out how to set the context up yet for
annotations, but still I have a few weeks to do some more design.

	Keith


Engineering is what happens when science and
mathematics meet politics.  Products are what
happens when all three meet reality.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jeni Tennison [mailto:jeni@jenitennison.com]
Sent: Sunday, October 06, 2002 1:17 PM
To: uche.ogbuji@fourthought.com
Cc: Eric van der Vlist; xml-dev@lists.xml.org
Subject: Re: [xml-dev] Annotations in XPath-NG? (Re: [xml-dev]
XPath/XSLT 2.0 concerns)


Hi Uche,

> My foirst comment is that it should be generic annotation, not just
> type annotation. My thoughts would be:
>
> Add an "annotation" property to each node. This is a simple
> key/value pair where the key is URI (or is that anathema ;-) ) and
> the value is any XPath 1.0 object (which would even allow
> annotations to be cross-node links).
>
> You can access any particular annotation for any particular XPath
> object with a function lookup(annoitation-key). Of course, some
> facilities, such as optimizers, might use annotations behind the
> scenes, directly.
>
> Does this sound like a good general approach?

Definitely. This is very close to what David Rosenborg and I were
discussing at:

  http://lists.xml.org/archives/xml-dev/200210/msg00212.html

and follow-ups.

Personally I'd use qualified names rather than URIs for the "lookup",
but that's because I envisage getting to annotation information
through an axis rather than through a function and because QNames are
easier to write than URIs. Perhaps a function:

  annotations(node)

that returns a node set, and let the user use XPath mechanisms for
doing the lookup within that node set?

Cheers,

Jeni

---
Jeni Tennison
http://www.jenitennison.com/


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