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   Re: [xml-dev] Why RDF is hard

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> > jonathan@openhealth.org (Jonathan Borden) writes:

Oops.  I tripped up the attributions on this one.  It was Simon who said this, 
of course.


> > I find markup very human - even annoyingly human.  I just came back from
> > a meeting where I showed off some SVG maps but really wowed them with
> > the raw XML used to store the data.  I never mentioned or explained XML,
> > but I didn't have to - they were looking at the marked-up data and
> > comparing it to the SVG and performing their own transformations.  Then
> > they asked if they could add X, Y, and Z or put it into Excel/SPSS/etc.
> > and were happy that the answer was yes.
> 
> Markup is not "human" whasoever.
> 
> XML is like RDF.  It starts out quite easy, and then gets hard quickly.
> 
> Did you have to explain what < meant in your presentation?  Did the 
> presentation have any foreign languages so that when you showed the plain text 
> in an American plain text processor you had to explain that the a-hat and 
> other assorted squigglies were really Japanese writing?  Did you have to talk 
> about any processing (you know, to actually make the data useful).  Did you 
> then have to explain to them SAX, DOM or data bindings?
> 
> BTW, you use Java.  Did you try explaining that code to the folks you were 
> working with?
> 
> Sorry, but I fond this argument specious.
> 
> 
> -- 
> Uche Ogbuji                                    Fourthought, Inc.
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> Python&XML column: 2. Introducing PyXML - http://www.xml.com/pub/a/2002/09/25/p
> y.html
> The Past, Present and Future of Web Services 1 - http://www.webservices.org/ind
> ex.php/article/articleview/663/1/24/
> The Past, Present and Future of Web Services 2 - 'http://www.webservices.org/in
> dex.php/article/articleview/679/1/24/
> Serenity through markup - http://adtmag.com/article.asp?id=6807
> Tip: Using generators for XML processing - http://www-106.ibm.com/developerwork
> s/xml/library/x-tipgenr.html
> 
> 
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