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> At 12:45 PM 12/4/2002 -0500, W. E. Perry wrote:
> >"Simon St.Laurent" wrote:
> > > Uche Ogbuji has a thoughtful (and thought-provoking) piece at:
> > > http://www.adtmag.com/article.asp?id=6965
> >AOL to this, Uche.
> >I would actually go beyond your point:
> >"Certainly, if you want your data to outlast your code, and to be more
> >portable to unforeseen, future uses, you would do well to lower your own
> >level of class consciousness. Strong data typing in XML tends to pigeonhole
> >data to specific tools, environments and situations. This often raises the
> >total cost of managing that data."
> >It is not just over time, but right now, between utterly dissimilar systems
> >whose only nexus is the internetwork, that communication is possible only by
> >instantiating a common syntax into locally idiosyncratic semantics at each
> >end of the conversation.
> I still don't understand this point. Could someone please illustrate with
> an example that uses several kinds of software processing data that uses
> datatypes, and showing how the presence of datatypes in that data prevents
> it from being used except in "specific tools, environments, and situations"?
> Please be as concrete as possible.
Sorry, but right after vacation, I have no time to rise to this bait.
We've had this conversation *numerous* times before. In fact, I'd say it's a
bona fide perma-thread.
I stated my piece in the article, with all the related discussion in mind.
That's a column, and not the place for extensive detail. On this mailing list
I, in particular have been very concrete, as has Walter, and others. If you
find missing from the list archives some new facet to expose in this unsounded
mire, I might even surprise myself by finding time to join the discussion.
Uche Ogbuji Fourthought, Inc.
http://uche.ogbuji.net http://4Suite.org http://fourthought.com
Tour of 4Suite - http://www.xml.com/pub/a/2002/10/16/py-xml.html
Proper XML Output in Python - http://www.xml.com/pub/a/2002/11/13/py-xml.html
RSS for Python - http://www-106.ibm.com/developerworks/webservices/library/ws-p
Debug XSLT on the fly - http://www-106.ibm.com/developerworks/xml/library/x-deb