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   RE: [xml-dev] Doc vs. Data

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> -----Original Message-----
> From: K. Ari Krupnikov [mailto:ari@cogsci.ed.ac.uk]
> Sent: 07 June 2003 00:13
> To: xml-dev@lists.xml.org
> Subject: Re: [xml-dev] Doc vs. Data
> "Dare Obasanjo" <dareo@microsoft.com> writes:
> > I'm not sure I agree with your comments on pull vs. push based
> > processing. I do agree that mixed content is the probably the most
> > relevant differentiator between data-centric & document-centric uses
> > of XML. However I don't see where this leads to the position that
> > there is antagonism between the folks that tend to create XML
> > documents that contain mixed content and those that don't.
> > 
> I'd say the difference is in how much of the XML one wants to
> see. "Data" folks seem to want to hide as much of it as possible
> behind tools, APIs and data models (even when they call them other
> names), while "doc" people seem to want to edit XML "in the source".
> Ari.

I don't know that people necessarily want to hide XML, I think they just want to hide complexity. However, if the XML markup they are using has become so complex as to no longer be human readable, one can't help asking, why use XML in the first place? 

The amount of work that has gone into refactoring XML to make it appear suitable for traditional data oriented applications is quite mind boggling. The only useful thing such applcations have really taken from XML is its ubiquity (or so it seems). 

I am actually rather uncomfortable at what appears to be seen as the clean divide between data oriented and document oriented applications (despite above comments). I work in an environment where I have to deal regularly with XML as data and XML as document (and that includes mixed content). I find that there is increasingly more and more of an overlap between the two ideas of XML, as we try to realise the benefits of using XML to carry information end to end (if there really is an end!), through multiple tranformations. 

All the best


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