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   Re: [xml-dev] The burning XML-DEV question of Where is Australia?(was Re

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as they say in the old country - what a load of bollocks

australia is australia. full stop.

and australians are australians.

can we get back to what australians are best at - bleeding edge
innovation in the face of insurmountable obstacles. xml seems like a
great test of our abilities.


rick marshall

ps don't be fooled by the domain - i'm in australia and as australian as

On Fri, 2003-06-20 at 20:12, Rick Jelliffe wrote:
> From: "Thomas B. Passin" <tpassin@comcast.net>
> > Rick, does an Australian count as a "Westerner"?   
> > If not, what is the best term, since it surely could not be "Asian"?
> Call us whatever you like: we don't care :-)   Some Asians think we are
> Asian, some think we are not, too. 
> The further one gets from one's home country, the more unnecessary 
> is all that detail on maps!  The other side of the globe should always be a
> comfortable blur. (I suspect most Australians would not be able to point out 
> Washington D.C. on a map.)  Actually, there is a growing trend here to have 
> the South at the top of maps, rather than the North, to protect our youth
> from northern-centricism or slights to our continental dignity.
> Over here, our rough mental geography is probably less based on hemispheres and 
> more based on oceans: Pacific Rim countries (amiable, but prone to stealing our fish), 
> Mediterranean countries (nice weather and old things, bad plumbing), Atlantic countries 
> (good tennis tournaments, but what's with the power/class/success trips?), and 
> Indian Ocean countries (saved us from British cooking, but don't drink the water dear). 
> I think generally Australians would be happy to be considered just part of the South 
> Pacific, with Fiji, Papua New Guinea, New Zealand,  Tahiti, Tonga, East Timor, 
> New Caledonia, etc.: the other countries with indigenous aboriginal, 
> polynesian or melanesian populations.  "Australasia" or "Oceana".  
> Geographically fairly Southern, economically fairly Eastern, culturally fairly 
> Western and ethnically fairly Northern: your call.
> In the long term (when Australia joins son-of-NAFTA, after the Euro takes over 
> from the US$ as the top trading currency, after oil-producers adopt the Euro to punish 
> US imperialism and after the East Asian countries run out of funds for stockpiling 
> US$ to protect their exports),  I expect we will become even more American 
> and hence less Asian geo-politically, even as our population become more Asian. 
> Think Vancouver with kangaroos.
> Cheers
> Rick Jelliffe
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