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   Re: [xml-dev] Considering Users (Was: Managing Innovation)

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On Wed, Oct 01, 2003 at 05:33:38AM -0400, AndrewWatt2000@aol.com wrote:
> >  I don't know why you think what you think about open source lack
> > of user consideration.
> Perhaps, then, you could have asked me to clarify my point, rather than 
> jumping to (incorrect) conclusions about what lay behind my comments?

  No because as I stated, it's not the proper channel. If you had come
to the right channel with a concrete argument, I would certainly have
listened replied, and prossibly fixed any problem, like I do on a regular
basis for the open-source projects I'm involved in.

> It wasn't written to make me "look any greater". It was written to express 
> what I view as a fundamental problem relating to open-source software.

  And which doesn't concern specifically the audience of xml-dev.

> I would suggest that careful scrutiny of those issues is fully warranted.

  Is there meaning behind those words? I can't decypher this.
I would suggest you make concrete proposal to the appropriate channels.

My sumary of you first post and my answer are:
 You: Unix is too complex for normal computer users, or normal people
  Me: Bzzz, wrong channel !

Being involved in GNOME for like 5 years I saw the effects of the
complexity and how this was in a very large part fixed working both
on Usability and Accessibility fronts, I don't intent to discuss this
with you on xml-dev, there is no point in this, there are proper
channels for this. If you have some feedback, suggestions or others
input, they are welcome on the GNOME/KDE/Apache/WhateverOSS project
you think doesn't take the appropriate directions. But uninstanciated
rants on xml-dev about those have zero value, at least for the OSS
world, maybe you're trying to reach another goal, which I assumed
was to free you from some kind of frustration, maybe I was wrong with


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