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   Re: [xml-dev] ASN.1 is an XML Schema Language (Fix those lists!) and Bin

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[duh, finger slipped]

On Monday, Nov 3, 2003, at 14:08 America/Detroit, John Larmouth wrote:

> Suggestions for an ASN.2 that is a cut-down, basic, ASN.1 abound.  But 
> the problem is that for every feature you look at, there are real 
> specicifications out there that use it!
> Also, please distinguish the ASN.1 notation from the encoding rules.  
> This is a one to many mapping.

Please note that I am just playing with the SGML analogy here; I don't 
pretend to know enough about ASN.1 to make a substantive contribution.  
I would simply note that many of these good points about the pains that 
a subset of the technology would cause the current users were made by 
SGML advocates when XML was being debated.  In retrospect, they seem to 
be vastly outweighed by the benefits that the refactoring brought to 

I'd also note that the slightly desperate tone of some of the early 
posts in this thread remind me of SGML advocates in the '90s, who could 
see the benefits that standardized markup could bring and couldn't 
believe why the world didn't realize them.   The world began to realize 
once this once the core specs were simple enough for ordinary mortals 
(and tool developers) to work with.


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